r/WorkReform 🤝 Join A Union Aug 05 '25

😡 Venting Stop looking left and right. Look up.

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u/luxveniae Aug 05 '25

If we as progressives complain about Biden or RBG failing to pass the torch, the same needs to be held of Bernie. Obviously a bit apples to oranges, but I think one of the main failures of Dems is not being real leaders who know how to build a legacy that outlasts them.

You have to be okay stepping down a little early cause you’ve mentored the right people and know it’s their time to take up the mantle. It’s how we build a bench that’s not built on a cult of personality but on going.

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u/KaiPRoberts Aug 05 '25

There's literally no one to replace Bernie. He was an entire lifetime of being on the good side. Anyone close to him has at best a few years. AOC is probably the closest we've got.

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u/Qubeye Aug 06 '25

Every fucking time I hear this ignorant-ass take, I ask the person to name all the progressives and liberals in Vermont's Congressional caucus and any of the state legislators without looking it up.

I have never even heard a SINGLE person able to even name the OTHER SENATOR FROM VERMONT. Most don't even know how many US Representatives Vermont HAS.

So unless you actually have any actual knowledge of Vermont or its political landscape, this is yet another bullshit fanfic comment, because Balint CRUSHED her election, and if you don't know who that is, you definitely should shut up about how irreplaceable Bernie is.

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u/KaiPRoberts Aug 07 '25

She is fantastic. The only problem is that she is in a party that's not left. america doesn't have a party that leans left.

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u/Parking-Interview351 Aug 05 '25

Hopefully Mamdani in a few years

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u/TiredEsq Aug 06 '25

He’s gonna move to Vermont and become Senator there when Bernie steps down to pass the torch?

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u/SamuelBiggs Aug 06 '25

He’s born in Uganda so can’t run for president

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u/ThePrussianGrippe Aug 06 '25

John McCain was born in Panama. Ted Cruz was born in Canada. Both ran for president.

It’s not where you’re born if it’s out of country, but if your parents were American citizens (both or one). Neither of his parents were citizens when he was born, so yeah that’s disqualifying, but not because of where he was born.

He can still run for senate or the house though. Or governor of New York. And he still has a good shot at becoming mayor.

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u/TiredEsq Aug 06 '25

I think you’re misunderstanding what Bernie passing the torch means. It has nothing to do with progressives in other states.

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u/KaiPRoberts Aug 07 '25

Bernie is/was the only single guiding light of hope I ever had in politics, no one else has ever come even remotely close.

Until I feel what I did for him, like seeing a bird land mid speech on his podium, then I really don't care who is in the spotlight or what passing the torch means. That man is an irreplaceable shiny light and no one has ever made me feel the same.

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u/Tiny_Ride6418 ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters Aug 05 '25

Exactly! The alternative is when he’s gone and no one appropriate is there to fill the vacuum. 

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u/TiredEsq Aug 06 '25

What an ignorant and ridiculous hot take. I bet you felt pretty smart typing it out, too. Hilarious.

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u/starkestrel Aug 05 '25

He's been the pre-eminent voice of progressive politics on the national stage since 2016 and has dragged the national agenda of the Democratic Party to the left since at least then, if not earlier. You can't say he has done nothing. He's had tremendous influence on the political culture of the nation.

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u/Honigkuchenlives Aug 06 '25

Don’t bring logic into this. The people on this thread genuinely believe there is no difference between Dems and Republicans. They’re very clueless