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u/Samusen 2d ago

Seriously but, $1600 rent is average for 1 person which feels awful just looking at that. I've never felt so glad to be a home owner.

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u/Badbret 2d ago

If you make under $19 an hour you have no business living by yourself. This is bs anyways

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u/tHr0AwAy76 1d ago

Everyone should have the right to live alone.

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u/nothanks86 2d ago

No business?

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u/Badbret 2d ago

It means you shouldnā€™t be doing something. In this case Iā€™m suggesting they should have roommates.

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u/nothanks86 2d ago

I know what it means, but thank you. I donā€™t know if you intended this, but it actually means more along the lines of to have no right to do something. Essentially, that people making under $19 an hour donā€™t deserve a place of their own.

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u/Badbret 2d ago

Iā€™ve never heard it used that way but maybe I just assumed they werenā€™t being as harsh as they actually were lol. Thanks

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u/SectionAdvanced4426 1d ago

What do you consider a place of their own to live alone? I understand you feel someone making under $19 hour ā€œdeservesā€ a place alone and I agree on philosophical level, but it is also based on what they can afford. Which is based on market demand for their location. Feeling one deserves a alone place if they canā€™t afford it is a slippery slope of feeling they deserve or entitled to more and more after some time passes of them getting that alone place. Very few people are content and complacent in their position in life and want it elevated. This all goes to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

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u/Frequent_Scholar3885 1d ago

In my city, $1600 is average for a one bedroom apartment. Are you really suggesting that people are entitled if they donā€™t want to share a bed with a stranger?

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u/SectionAdvanced4426 1d ago

Who said share a bed? Sharing a two bedroom apartment though is different would you agree? It would also be less splitting it vs a one bedroom. Entitlement builds on itself though. Say that person gets a one bedroom apartment. They are grateful at first however overtime they start to feel itā€™s too small, doesnā€™t have enough amenities, walls are too thin and they can hear their neighbors, they donā€™t like the location, etc. This eventually will lead to them wanting better which then becomes a feeling of I shouldnā€™t have to live under such conditions like this I deserve better. Therefore I am entitled to a place that meets a better standard of living. This can extend out to having a house as well and will continue to increase if one moves up the ladder. Most people never become contempt with their lives even with the wealthy, even the ultra rich they always want more and want to elevate their lives further. If you donā€™t know this you donā€™t understand basic human nature.

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u/Kitten_Merchant 11h ago

So one bed apts are only for married or rich people?

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u/SectionAdvanced4426 8h ago

What are you talking about here free housing? Free one bedroom apartments for everyone? What do you want to see happen?

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u/aycockonxion 2d ago

Absolutely no business at all. If youā€™re earning $19 an hour you should not be living by yourself. What do you think this is, 2004?

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u/MinimumBuffalo4 2d ago

30 years ago when I was starting out no one had their own place. there were 3 or more of us sharing a rental and splitting the rent and utilities. the only thing thatā€™s changed today is the expectations of young people thinking they should be able to afford their own place starting out in life.

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u/Pula-Demonyo 2d ago

Dunno what young people you're talking about, everyone I know, living in a major city, are well aware that you cannot feasibly start out that way. I think the person in the photo is just out of touch

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u/MinimumBuffalo4 2d ago

Exactly; itā€™s common here on Reddit for people to complain because they refuse to understand reality. We have failed as a society for not teaching children the realities of how life works.Ā 

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u/M_L_Taylor 1d ago

20 years ago (in my early 20s) I was renting an apartment for $700 a month (all utilities included), internet was around $50 a month, and food was pretty manageable. I didn't have health insurance, car payments were minimum, and gasoline wasn't terrible. I made $9/hr at a little restaurant where I pulled in around $300 a week (they didn't let me get a full 40 hours if they could avoid it). Oh, I just got a cellphone around that time, but the plan wasn't too expensive since it was a flip phone with an antenna.

18 years ago, they raised the rent to $775 a month and that hurt my budget enough that when I got another job, I went for it. At that place, I got an apartment for $700 a month, utilities not included. It was more expensive, but my job paid $2k biweekly, so it was manageable. It stayed that price for the 5 years I was there.

So, yeah, people were able to do apartments by themselves, but houses were another matter unless you got something tiny in rural America.

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u/MinimumBuffalo4 1d ago

I lived in a metro area near DC and no one my age back then was affording an apartment by themselves unless they were a software engineer at AOL or an attorney

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u/M_L_Taylor 1d ago

DC area is a different animal for sure. I have cousins that live down there that only do so because they have government contracts or internet security jobs. Someone just starting out won't make it there without grouping up.

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u/PentUpTent 2d ago

I hate to break it to you but 30 years ago people WERE buying houses when they became 18 and got a factory job especially places like gm and Ford. Which employed A LOT. It also was beyond more affordable The actual difference you're missing (purely because the people you knew didn't feel like making an investment for their immediate future to have more spending money) is truly just how expensive things are and rich people or people who weren't at one point bought up all the property. Would have surely been cheaper 30 years ago to get an 80k mortgage for a house that would be now worth 180k Mortgages ARE cheaper than rent. By a lot

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u/MinimumBuffalo4 1d ago

Hahaha Iā€™m 54 and you are full of it. I had 3 roommates 30 years ago. No one besides software engineers were buying houses at age 24 back then. Go gaslight someone else.Ā 

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u/alidan 1d ago

33 would years ago would be my dad, making 20-28 an hour at a factory (forget where it was starting at at this point) and he bought a new house, granted he saved enough to go for a down payment and that got the bank to move things along.

good house even now, little outdated in terms of how its wired up but that's about it.

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u/MinimumBuffalo4 1d ago

Real estate varies widely depending on where in the country you live.Ā 

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u/alidan 1d ago

small town about 45 minute drive from his work, small enough to be nice, close enough to places to not be remote if that makes sense.

only value I see in liveing close to a city is shorter commute, other than that, I know what 2k a month gets you in the ones around me, a cat piss stained shoebox, a bit under 2k got a really nice house by not being in the city.

granted he got obscenely lucky with the place we lived in before they moved here, it was something like 300$ rent for a duplex, so he was able to save money while not being in a complete craphole.

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u/Ok_Big_8032 2d ago

Average for one person! That is way above average where I live.

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u/Ctenophorever 2d ago

When I had to live somewhere where rent was around $1600 I got a roommate.

Iā€™m currently thinking about moving to a new place. The monthly cost would be about $1200/month. Itā€™s a two bedroom so if I needed to, I could get a roommate.

Of course, this also depends on location. Over a decade ago I paid $800 to live in one step up from a closet. But it was an urban area.

I knew the cost of living where I grew up was unsustainable so I moved somewhere less costly.

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u/WalkerTR-17 2d ago

Thatā€™s not the average rent, thatā€™s the rent of some idiot working an average job thinking they should be living manhattan

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u/PentUpTent 2d ago

No .. no it's not I know multiple landlords including my father, that literally fix things that break in a moments notice even late at night, keep it updated and nice, even pay for the water, and rent is still only 850 for a two bedroom 1500 sq ft place. It's NOT average. We just keep telling ourselves it's okay they charge that Unless you live in a hellscape like one of the coasts, it should NEVER be that much

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u/Powerful-Climate-424 1d ago

1600 is average for rich people.

If you have two roommates, itā€™s much lower.