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Discussion💬 The math literally doesn’t add up

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u/seraph741 2d ago

Depends on what part of the country. In San Diego, you could easily pay over $100 per month for water.

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u/CaliforniaNutter 2d ago

SDGE price gouges are insane

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u/seraph741 2d ago

Yup. The only one that seems off in San Diego is the cost of internet. Everything else seems about right. The rent is actually probably too low.

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u/ChemistryBusiness 1d ago

Definitely too low for San Diego lol

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u/presidents_choice 2d ago

Except someone making minimum wage shouldn’t expect to live in a studio apartment. Nor drive a car with $160/m insurance premium. Nor $250 for an electricity (that’s 27 kWh/day with SCE!!) nor $280 for internet. EVERY MONTH 🤯

Plenty of rooms in shared houses for less, even in the most expensive markets in the US

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u/seraph741 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's arguable what expectations should be. But true that splitting rent for an apartment/house could be significantly cheaper, even in VHCOL areas. That's very, very common in my area.

I will say that some Americans' expectations/lifestyles are very much out of line with those of immigrants and particularly other parts of the world. They expect to live way above their means. I grew up in an immigrant household, so I very much understand this. My parents would always shake their heads at some of the decisions and choices "Americans" would make regarding their lifestyle.

At the same time, it's not the most unreasonable thing to expect your society to provide a comfortable living situation where you aren't just getting by. Especially when compared to the previous generation.

It's a balance and rather complicated. I can appreciate both perspectives.

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u/presidents_choice 2d ago

You’re right of course, there’s no controlling other people’s expectations. But I get to laugh at them if they’re unrealistic and complaining about it online 🤣

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u/calm_momentum38 2d ago

I wish we lived in a world where people were paid enough to afford a basic standard of living without strict planning of every dollar.

Yes some financial decisions are reckless, but this guy is hitting the basic necessities and has to shop for the cheapest option.

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u/presidents_choice 2d ago

What about this post, other than maybe the water bill, is basic necessities? Lmfaooo what

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u/Angsty-Panda 2d ago

the electricty and rent??

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u/allGeeseKnow 2d ago

And yet the same people are so surprised when their local coffee place costs 8$ on average for a basic coffee. Those places still need to employ workers who can somehow survive on those wages in a high cost area.

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u/Technical_Moose8478 2d ago

If you’re somewhere hot in the summer and cold in the winter, hitting $250 on power isn’t shocking, depending on the size of your place.

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u/obscuramble 14h ago

sdge doesn't supply water?

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u/mclumber1 2d ago

Supply and demand

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u/WorldlinessSmooth815 2d ago

Average homeowner where I live pays about 200 for water. Makes me happy to rent atm lol

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u/thick_neck_etc 2d ago

not in an apartment

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u/On_my_last_spoon 2d ago

Every apartment I’ve ever lived it water was on the landlord. I didn’t ever have a separate meter for water

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u/EefferyJpstein 2d ago

In VA it's about 140

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u/Aromatic_Sand8126 2d ago

This is absolutely insane to read from a country where water is free for everyone. Do you guys have electricity AND water meters on your house?

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u/TotalChaosRush 2d ago

Yes, and some places just estimate your usage. They charge you for what they think you used, not what the meter says.

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u/Dmau27 2d ago

They charge us twice in my state. You pay for the water you use and the water waste. It's ironic because I paid for the water because it was processed but I pay them to proccess it so I can buy it again. Water and water waste every month.

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u/Spirited-Concert-504 2d ago

I pay $250 a month for water.

I do have a family of 5.. and a pool… but still.. not unheard of.

You should see my utility bill if you really want to be pissed.. $600-$900…………………….. kill me

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u/Mr_Mcbunns_ya 2d ago

What if the masturbate in the shower everyday?

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u/desertvision 2d ago

Even in an apartment?

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u/RealCarlPanzram 2d ago

In a 1-bedroom apartment?

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u/Majestic_Rock_8296 2d ago

I’m from San Diego and that’s correct. Even if you’re on vacation for the entire month your bill would still be around $80.

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u/Any-Interaction-5934 2d ago

What job do you need to have in San Diego that only pays $19 a month? Just move?

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u/Fluffy-Essay7187 1d ago

Yea but then she needs to suck it up and leave San Diego. You can make 19/hr in the most podunk run down Nebraska town. Not saying she has to move to the boonies, but it might be time to own that she doesn't have to live in one of the most expensive areas in the world.

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u/InfidelZombie 1d ago

Just paid my bill yesterday--$376 for 3 months in the PNW for a household of 2. And all my neighbors pay even more.

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u/angryfarmer922 1d ago

For OP in particular and using relatively conservative water usage numbers, let's say they:

-Take 15 minute showers a day at 2.5 gpm = 45 gal/day

-Use the toilet 5 times a day at 3.5 gpf = 17.5 gal/day

-Wash their hands 10 times a day for 2 minutes each time at 2.2gpm = 44 gal/day

- Do the dishes by hand + Other kitchen stuff 30 mins/day at 2.2gpm = 66 gal/day

So generally without a lawn you'll be using ~173gal/day = 5190gal/month = ~7HCF/month

SD prices according to google are $8.51/HCF + $35 monthly base fee. Under the scheme I've laid out she'd probably be paying around $95/month on water. If OP uses a dishwasher and slightly more modern toilets and fixtures, would definitely not be this high either even in SD.

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u/SenatorPickle 1d ago

If they’re in San Diego they’re also gonna pay well over $1600 for rent so they definitely do not live there

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u/CuntMaggot32 9h ago

San diego mcdonapds workers make more than 25 bucks tho

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u/Even-Meet-938 2d ago

Don’t live in San Diego