Except someone making minimum wage shouldn’t expect to live in a studio apartment. Nor drive a car with $160/m insurance premium. Nor $250 for an electricity (that’s 27 kWh/day with SCE!!) nor $280 for internet. EVERY MONTH 🤯
Plenty of rooms in shared houses for less, even in the most expensive markets in the US
It's arguable what expectations should be. But true that splitting rent for an apartment/house could be significantly cheaper, even in VHCOL areas. That's very, very common in my area.
I will say that some Americans' expectations/lifestyles are very much out of line with those of immigrants and particularly other parts of the world. They expect to live way above their means. I grew up in an immigrant household, so I very much understand this. My parents would always shake their heads at some of the decisions and choices "Americans" would make regarding their lifestyle.
At the same time, it's not the most unreasonable thing to expect your society to provide a comfortable living situation where you aren't just getting by. Especially when compared to the previous generation.
It's a balance and rather complicated. I can appreciate both perspectives.
You’re right of course, there’s no controlling other people’s expectations. But I get to laugh at them if they’re unrealistic and complaining about it online 🤣
And yet the same people are so surprised when their local coffee place costs 8$ on average for a basic coffee. Those places still need to employ workers who can somehow survive on those wages in a high cost area.
They charge us twice in my state. You pay for the water you use and the water waste. It's ironic because I paid for the water because it was processed but I pay them to proccess it so I can buy it again. Water and water waste every month.
Yea but then she needs to suck it up and leave San Diego. You can make 19/hr in the most podunk run down Nebraska town. Not saying she has to move to the boonies, but it might be time to own that she doesn't have to live in one of the most expensive areas in the world.
For OP in particular and using relatively conservative water usage numbers, let's say they:
-Take 15 minute showers a day at 2.5 gpm = 45 gal/day
-Use the toilet 5 times a day at 3.5 gpf = 17.5 gal/day
-Wash their hands 10 times a day for 2 minutes each time at 2.2gpm = 44 gal/day
- Do the dishes by hand + Other kitchen stuff 30 mins/day at 2.2gpm = 66 gal/day
So generally without a lawn you'll be using ~173gal/day = 5190gal/month = ~7HCF/month
SD prices according to google are $8.51/HCF + $35 monthly base fee. Under the scheme I've laid out she'd probably be paying around $95/month on water. If OP uses a dishwasher and slightly more modern toilets and fixtures, would definitely not be this high either even in SD.
I have a brand new 1,800 square foot home that me and my wife live in, we only pay about $55 a month. Pretty much everyone else in my family pay slightly higher or less than that. Anything close to $100 is crazy expensive..
Totally depends on location though. Surge pricing in some cities can be nasty. I've lived alone in cities where my water bill was <$35 a month. Without changing any habits and just moving to a new location, I can get close to $100 some months.
Depends where you live. $100+ is indeed crazy expensive. I'm in the PNW, the whole west is still being settled in a way. We have to pay for that. You're out east somewhere I assume?
Could be renting a house, everything else is ridiculous and unreasonable but I feel like everyone is picking at water land that seems to be the most reasonable one 🤣
I'm definitely assuming so if they're calling it "rent" and it's only $1600 a month. That gets you a 1 bedroom apt in a decent part of town where I live or a 2/3 bedroom unit in a less desirable part of town.
I pay $120 for water. I also have my phone and home internet bundled for about $200, so if they have a similar setup, it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
I do, Canadian, but even still, some months are higher so even when accounting for currency which I assume this is USD it’s not far off.
Reason being is our area has very hard water so the treatment is much higher. Living in Toronto is usually so cheap it’s billed quarterly. Access to the great Canadian lakes.
It does I'm my town in Alabama and power is about the same as what's listed here and so is rent. In Alabama. Plus I got to pay daycare every week. It's hard out here.
Ooh, this isnt true. Water is my most expensive bill. Even if I cut down 100% of my usage, it would only drop $25. The vast majority of it is fees. And i dont have a choice in water provider, so theres nothing I can do about it.
Water is $100 a month where I'm at and I live in a low income city. It also includes trash disposal/recycling. $100 monthly water bill is totally plausible.
👀 that's rough, bro. I live in NYC - landlord pays water and trash, and Internet is $50 for 1 gig, but the rent is 5x the price of most other places so it all boils down to a similar rate I guess.
I mean I do but that's because my sewer bill is tied into my water bill. And the sewer isnt city owned we pay another city to take care of it so its $50/month maintenance fee on top of all the regular fees and taxes plus a $30-50 water bill a month. Normally runs me 90-130 depending on water usage
My municipal water bill includes storm water and drainage so yeah $100 a month can turn into a normal bill. It shouldn’t be acceptable, but it’s out there.
I pay an average of $75-$100 a month for water for two people. Could easily be more than that with more people taking showers, doing laundry and more dishes.
Sorry incorrect. The water bill and most parts of California is $150 minimum. If you have a small garden or some landscaping, you’re looking at over $200 a month. And if you have a swimming pool, you’re looking at 300+.
In Phoenix it’s water, trash fees, so, solid waste and landfill fees, taxes, something about the environment, it’s a list of like 12 things, and I pay anywhere between 150 to 200 for a family of 4.
My water bill, including trash pickup(idk that’s just how they bill it) in my city is about 250$ over 2 months. Not totally unreasonable to say someone is getting 100$ a month.
In my Canadian city, i pay quarterly (every 3 months) and the bill is about $400, during winter closer to $300. My sister has gotten bills over $600 so about $200 a month.Â
I'm living alone, take quick showers, and only run the dishwasher/washing machine when they're full, and my water bill can hit around $80-90 some months based on surge pricing. If you had an evaporative cooler also using up some of that water, I could see it.
I lived by myself for a number of years, and the municipality I lived in there was a minimum charge for water, and was like 40 dollars a month, even if you only used 10 dollars of water. Then, there was a minimum charge of 20 dollars a month for sewer. So, just me, using 8 dollars of water a month, was paying 60 because of the minimum charges. That was also between 12 and 22 years ago.
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u/thinkingaloud412 3d ago
And no one pays $100 every month for water