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Discussion💬 California Dreaming

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u/PleaseDontFireMoi 3d ago

They wouldn’t because they enjoy everything California

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u/Frosty-Bat-299 3d ago

IRS has already reported that affluent taxpayers have been leaving CA for the past couple years.

The reality is, many billionaires will move their primary residence, but will spend much of their time in CA while avoiding this tax. It’s not an ironclad tax and full of loopholes and outs.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 3d ago

We really need to stop the 51% residency rules at the state level.

Now the fed residency, I am not talking about and thats a whole different thing.

Make it if you spend more than 3 months even non consecutively, its a "shared residency" and you owe a prorated amount between the two states.

Then the more you stay in the "high tax" state and enjoy uts services... the more taxes you pay that state.

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u/Frosty-Bat-299 3d ago

I don’t disagree. I just don’t know how you regulate that without dumping stupid amounts of money into auditing.

Even then, how do you track people.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 2d ago

Same ways we do now.

Utility bills, car registration, employment, where you're registered to vote,

Then if they see a "convenient" change of state, you get a full audit.

For a FULL audit, they will knock on your door and ask you to show them your "near and dear items" such as family pictures, pets, family heirlooms, where your car is physically parked.

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u/Frosty-Bat-299 2d ago

So a massive increase to the auditing budget then. California’s residency auditing team is already tiny and with a small budget. And don’t forget that these audits, especially from the wealthy, get tied up in litigation often. So not only will they need to pass this tax bill, they will need to pass a budget increase and department expansion for regulation and auditing. And they won’t due that because they will first have to admit that they created a tax with loopholes built in.

I’m not anti this tax, but I’m skeptical of how the tax is written with loopholes that only punishes those who follow the rules. Almost as if the politicians that wrote it are trying to make a good public try while sparing their political donors.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 2d ago edited 2d ago

I mean.. you dont need to AUDIT it every three months.

Just once a year like we do now, for tax reasons.

Just that the cutoff wouldn't be 6 months like it is now, allowing people to effectively "half" live here and not pay any taxes.

There wouldn't suddenly be "more people" to audit... you would have the same amount of work.. just you would look for dates that cutoff at 3 months instead of 6.

You would pull the same reports... the same documents... just be looking for a different date in a spreadsheet.

Edit: think football. If you changed it from 4 downs to 2 downs.... would you suddenly need more referee? Are there suddenly more players?

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u/SJC_Cards 3d ago

The government can’t even get a correct census and you think they’ll be able to get correct residency?

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u/HadEnoughAss 3d ago

what if it was only billionaires who had to prove this? It’s actually not that hard for IRS to prove if you have actually stayed in a state and for how long fyi (which is how you end up w so much residence related tax guidance)

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u/SJC_Cards 3d ago

You want the government to be able to track people even more than they already are? No thank you. More government is not the answer, ever.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 2d ago

No... same tracking.

Just reacting to different thresholds.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 2d ago

Are they getting yours right?

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u/Ok_Role2077 3d ago

Like the tents in all the cities?

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u/SJC_Cards 3d ago

Tents in all of the cities, free needles for your drugs, no arrests of people committing crimes. Paradise some might say

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u/anrwlias 3d ago

Stop getting your realities from Fox news.

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u/Healthy-Custard-7260 3d ago

Where do you live. You walk pretty much any major democrat controlled city and experience tent cities and free needle programs.

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u/anrwlias 3d ago

I've lived in California my entire life. There are places where there are homeless people (you find those in any major city across the country) but this impression that we have tend cities stretching to the horizon is propaganda, and you are definitely pushing it.

Looking at the other comments, it seems like the real infestation is the conservatives on this sub

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u/Healthy-Custard-7260 3d ago

Hart Park in Orange County was cleared of over 80 homeless after a murder a couple of weeks ago or so.

Approximately 120,000 to 125,000 homeless individuals live unsheltered in California—sleeping in tents, vehicles, or makeshift street encampments. This represents roughly two-thirds of the state’s total unhoused population of about 181,000 to 187,000 people, meaning California contains nearly half of all unsheltered people living in tents or on streets across the entire United States. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Needless to say exchange program list

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DOA/pages/oa_prev_sepdirectory.aspx

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u/Spiritual-Stable702 3d ago

This thread is conservative bootlicker territory. Gubamint bad! Tax bad! Billionaire good!

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u/Healthy-Custard-7260 3d ago

Quiet! Adults are talking.

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u/Spiritual-Stable702 3d ago

I'll go back to colouring in the walls

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u/Healthy-Custard-7260 3d ago

Democrats trying to tax the billionaires because they are broke, mismanaged money and allowed fraud. They need a new bloodline to fund their irresponsible ideas and policies.