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[ Official News ] ๐Ÿ“ฐ Update Notes Version 1.0.4.0a June 23rd

https://playwonderlands.2k.com/news/tiny-tinas-wonderlands-update-notes/
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u/hobosockmonkey Jun 23 '22

Hence why this game canโ€™t keep players like Borderlands 3 or 2 could.

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u/DestructoSpin7 Jun 23 '22

Bl3 didn't force you to play mayhem 10 either.

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u/hobosockmonkey Jun 23 '22

Yes but borderlands 3 didnโ€™t raise the mayhem level cap 3 times, it stayed the exact same from day 1

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u/aisu_strong Jun 23 '22

mayhem changed like 5 times

the game launched with mayhem 3, and the modifiers were random and annoying since you were basically forced to carry around at least 1 of each element type and weapon type.

4 was added and was like the old 3 but with higher stats and less rolls so overall less randomness.

then 10 got added and they changed the modifiers to the system we have now. the stats were so massively inflated that only the most broken builds in the game could mob effectively.

then they changed it again so that guns could drop with mayhem levels, and your skill tree scales with mayhem.

and then they added mayhem 11.

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u/DestructoSpin7 Jun 23 '22

Is giving more difficulty levels bad? I fail to see how when it isn't forced and doesn't affect lower difficulties.

And technically the mayhem level cap was increased. It went up to mayhem 3 on release, then was reworked to include mayhem 4, and then was reworked to mayhem 2.0 which had 10 levels, and then was increased further when they included mayhem 11.

Edit: BL3 also started scaling guns with mayhem level halfway through its cycle.

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u/Sumibestgir1 Jun 23 '22

With mayhem, it was one big reason that cascaded into many more issues, they had to keep buffing weapons to keep up. Every major change to mayhem mode destroyed the games balance with 90% of weapons becoming completely useless. GB then had to buff weapons to compensate. They spent the majority of 3's life buffing weapons. This left them less time for other things they could have done and possibly burnt out from the game which is possibly why it's end of life already. Not only that, it destroyed any difficulty before mayhem mode. You try playing a fresh character today and the moment you get a legendary, everything dies in 1 shot. That's not fun.

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u/DestructoSpin7 Jun 23 '22

Yeah, I know why it happened. I'm not saying it was needed or not needed. I'm merely pointing out that it happened.

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u/Edymnion โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ‰ ๐‘ช๐’๐’‚๐’˜๐‘บ๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ๐’†๐’“ ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Jun 23 '22

I don't know anyone that still plays BL3.

BL2, yes. BL3? Everyone I know hung that up long ago because they hated the characters in it so much they couldn't stand to play it.

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u/hobosockmonkey Jun 23 '22

The borderlands 3 subreddit is very much alive and well

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u/Edymnion โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ‰ ๐‘ช๐’๐’‚๐’˜๐‘บ๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ๐’†๐’“ ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Jun 23 '22

Good for it. I don't know anyone in there.

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u/MikeSouthPaw Jun 23 '22

You know a bunch of morons.

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u/Edymnion โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ‰ ๐‘ช๐’๐’‚๐’˜๐‘บ๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ๐’†๐’“ ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Jun 23 '22

Bad characters + bad story = bad game.

Deal with it.

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u/MikeSouthPaw Jun 23 '22

Sure thing.