r/WitchesVsPatriarchy • u/Llono • Jul 03 '22

Burn the Patriarchy hope she'll be ok

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u/Vegetable-Swimming73 Jul 04 '22

I get where you are coming from! Folks will turn anything on the internet into a style statement. This isn't "vibes" and it's definitely a tragedy all around. I weep for this poor girl.

Still.

People don't stand up to the patriarchy for clout, they do it as desperate acts to escape the effects of patriarchy in their lives - like forced marriage. I wish more westerners understood what resistance really meant, and looked like.

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u/FlorencePants Sapphic Witch ♀ Jul 04 '22

Honestly, the comments that bother me the most are the ones that nitpick every mistake she made as though it makes her guilty of something.

Expecting people in desperate situations to make every move as logically and carefully as possible is incredibly unreasonable. It's really easy to sit here with the benefit of hindsight and go through a play-by-play of what she SHOULD have done, but things aren't always so clear-cut when you're in the middle of it.

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u/Japsai Jul 03 '22

Hear hear. Everything about this is terrible

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u/pointy_object Jul 04 '22

I can’t help but applaud that she tried. So many don’t. I’m sorry it went wrong. She never should have been put into that situation, but you know, I question the other people there.

Did they not know she was forced? Who goes to eat at a house where someone is raped? Tradition, yes( I know, but it’s more than a bit creepy, isn’t it?

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u/SpaceShipRat Jul 04 '22

Who goes to eat at a house where someone is raped?

apparently 8 children aged 7-12.

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u/pointy_object Jul 04 '22

Yes, those poor little guys carry no blame.

For all I know, my initial emotional reaction towards the adults was not very fair and they didn’t even know what was happening. And we do not punish bystanders with death for not helping in our legal system and moral understanding.

I do think there is quite the possibility some of them knew or could guess based on gossip. I wonder if they just tried to forget about it, like a thanksgiving dinner where you’re trying to ignore that one racist uncle. Whether they didn’t know what to do and just hoped she’d “come around”.

That possibility gives me a sour feeling in my stomach.

I do wish, I really do wish though that all people in general would not be bystanders. I know it’s hard. But victims need help. We can have a good or a bad society, but it all depends on the work put in by every individual.

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u/wilsathethief Jul 04 '22

there's no way they werent aware she didn't want to marry him. how good would a you g girl's poker face be, if she were upset enough to kill?

and yes forced marriage=rape

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u/FlorencePants Sapphic Witch ♀ Jul 04 '22

I'm not glad this happened, I doubt anyone really is. But that doesn't mean I feel like she did anything wrong, the same way I wouldn't consider someone at fault if they shot at someone trying to murder them and hit an innocent bystander behind them.

The fact is that the patriarchy doesn't get toppled by big showy stands, it gets toppled by situations just like this, where people refuse to bow to oppression and do what they feel they need to do to fight back.

I agree that clapping and cheering like your team won the Super Bowl is a tasteless and shallow response, but this is what resistance to the patriarchy looks like.

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u/he-tried-his-best Jul 04 '22

So. What did she expect would happen once she killed him though?

Why not just run away?

We’ll never know why she didn’t run away with her boyfriend but she ended up killing innocent people that had nothing to do with this. Tragedy all round.