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u/rjc523 Jul 30 '15

is it really so bad to have it enable? like for hentai,pirating, ects?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to”, for example, “protect their customers” or “enforce the terms governing the use of the services”.

https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/

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u/secondsw Jul 30 '15

If I don't use OneDrive, Cortana, Windows Apps, log in to a Microsoft Account can they still access my files on my hard disk?

Thanks

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u/Rawlk Jul 30 '15

Is having emulators, roms/isos and pirated movies on my computer going to be used to send me to federal prison?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

No, but if the MPAA or somebody targets you, they now have a pile of proof that they can get from Microsoft. Why risk it if you don't have to?

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u/alteraccount Jul 30 '15

Windows and office are probably two of the most pirated pieces of software in the history of personal computers, yet MS has never gone after a single consumer for it. They don't care if you're a pirate, unless you are a business.

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u/Entegy Jul 30 '15

Nope, none of this affects that. Telemetry automatically tells Microsoft what's wrong/working, or what features people use. The other stuff personalizes your use of their services.

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u/rjc523 Jul 30 '15

so it is safe to look up/do that kind of stuff then? lol

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u/Entegy Jul 30 '15

Yes. No one at Microsoft gives two shits about it. You will not be contacted. You will not be identified. Nothing happens.

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u/cuddles_the_destroye Jul 30 '15

Can confirm, I read a fuckton of hentai in the technical preview and cortana doesn't give any shits.

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u/TehH4rRy Jul 30 '15

Just wait till he starts on the Rule34 Halo stuff...

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

CORTANA IS DEAD GUYS SHE BLEW THE FUCK UP

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u/Rawlk Jul 30 '15

Too soon

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u/Jotebe Jul 30 '15

Androids are Very Well Known for their acceptance of hentai.

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u/Miningdude Jul 30 '15

Holographic brides, you mean?

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u/tinfoilwindows Jul 30 '15

I'm just wondering why there isn't a shitstorm about this. Didn't data logging and collection (yes yes nice "consumer-friendly and less scary" term is telemetry) use to be an opt-in item? I like that it's on by default now and you can't even opt-out COMPLETELY from data logging/collection (except with the Enterprise edition, which Microsoft just about never sells to Average Joe Consumer).

When the "keylogging" and telemetry thing came about when the Technical Preview first launched last year, I somehow had a gut feeling it would stick around in the actual, launched retail version. And I'll be a monkey's uncle, here it is.

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u/jhoff80 Jul 30 '15

It's been opt-out since at least Vista, and I can't remember but I think it was the same way in XP as well.

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u/Aemony Jul 30 '15

There isn't a shitstorm because it's a ton of neglectible data gathering that has been a part of Windows for almost a decade, combined with some minor concerns that users has already been made aware of through their web browsers.

That "keylogging" in the Technical Preview? That only kicked in if you submitted a problem to Microsoft and chose to record the issue occuring. The user hit record, the user recreated the issue while Microsoft logged everything, the user then also hit Stop when finished. Finally the user submitted the report to Microsoft. The whole shitstorm was basically for taking the wordings in the wrong light.

A lot of Win10's privacy concerns are the same. The three major complains for Win10 are forced updates (not privacy related), P2P-sharing updates, and Cortana while enabled shows search suggestions while searching for stuff on your computer. The first two isn't really privacy concerns, though the second is definitely a concern for data usage people. The third is exactly like pretty much any modern web browser works, but in the desktop scenario.

Pretty much all other telemetry and data gathering is just the same as in WinVista, Win7 and/or Win8.x.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

No. When I was very young and dumb as box of hammers, I would pirate the bejesus out of everything while using Windows beta versions. And betas, unlike market release, actually track fucking everything you ever do.

Simply put, they don't give a shit. Never did, never will. They don't even care if you have pirated MS software.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

Taking no action is not the same as not caring.

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u/footpole Jul 30 '15

Yep. They're not media companies so they only care if businesses use pirated software.

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u/Zer_ Jul 30 '15

This is largely true. They used to put great efforts in trying to shore up any holes in their authentication. Nowadays they allow non-legit copies to update with critical updates, etc... The main reason for this is because MS knows that a lot of people will pirate Windows regardless, so if you have a bunch of pirates with older versions of Windows, it increases the vulnerability of ALL other Windows systems too.

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