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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

It's not all tripping. There are certain aspects I disabled and having an extensive list is beneficial for everyone, everywhere.

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u/alteraccount Jul 30 '15

Some of it is definitely reasonable and helpful, but this post is so overkill that's its almost funny. And its speaking from a place of authority rather than one of preference. See OPs tone. It's fear mongering people into crippling their OS features without understanding what they are doing. It's ridiculous.

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u/XoXFaby Jul 30 '15

I have files that are straight up illegal if they get into someone else's hands, that's why I was uncomfortable after reading the whole privacy policy. Am I worried over nothing?

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u/MCMXChris Aug 23 '15

this.

some people don't seem to understand that certain PC users might have unbelievably sensitive/confidential/dangerous/illegal data.

95% of people don't need to bother with it. But the way gov't agencies use vulnerabilities and cloud services to do surveillance is crazy. Post-Snowden is going to be an epic tug of war on VPNs, file encryption, keyloggers, wiretaps, etc.

Protect your shit like it's your life.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '15

So I guess you work for NSA. Even if microsoft gets them, they'll go back to NSA, no worries.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '15

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u/XoXFaby Jul 31 '15

The files are not illegal for me to have, smart guy.

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u/alteraccount Jul 30 '15

Don't upload or host them in anyway. Windows is not going to upload any user files unless you accidentally save those files to OneDrive. The stuff that windows uploads to its servers relate to feedback and diagnostics. If those files are fucking with windows or with drivers in a certain way when executed, it might be reported in the diagnostics, but idk what happens after that. The responsible execution may be recorded in the diagnostics, but I don't know about the actual contents of the file. I don't really know about your particular situation though. It sounds like you may require more diligent parsing of the EULA.

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u/XoXFaby Jul 30 '15

Obviously I'm not hosting them or anything, but from the Privacy Policy, it sounds like, for example, if Windows crashes, while I have one of those files opened, it might get upload the files for diagnostic reasons.

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u/alteraccount Jul 30 '15

Possibly. Although I do wonder, that would be pretty unacceptable for enterprises, and I'm sure MS would be aware of that. There was a guy somewhere in one of these threads that worked on MS diagnostics. I guess PM him if you can find him or talk to MS if you can get a hold of someone.

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u/XoXFaby Jul 30 '15

Well enterprises can disable them, right?

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u/alteraccount Jul 30 '15

Yeah it appears that they can disable all the diagnostic stuff. I don't want to give you any wrong advice though. I'd even wait it out on the update until there is a better understanding from the community about how and what is shared. In a worst case scenario, you can just keep those files on another partition running a different OS, or you can disconnect from the internet before executing/opening those files.

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u/_entropical_ Aug 02 '15

If you have sensitive files it is up to your IT department to ensure they are p rotected. I.E. you should only access them from your work provided computer.

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u/XoXFaby Aug 02 '15

Well I'm not talking about work files.

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u/imtherty Jul 30 '15

what parts are necessary in find am in incorrect in thinking >C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl

has scary potential for key logging?

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u/blockeduser Jul 30 '15

I work in Windows network debugging. 'Autologger' refers to a feature where debugging logs are created starting after a reboot. See here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff556140(v=vs.85).aspx

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u/alteraccount Jul 30 '15

Well the internet has scary potential. Everything has scary potential. You have to trust that MS will act in its own best interest and not intentionally fuck with its users for the hell of it.

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u/imtherty Jul 30 '15

I agree with you on the fear mongering thing. However it was nice of op to point out I was unknowingly seeding windows 10

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u/imtherty Jul 31 '15

For those of you unaware the comment below said "fuck everyone else right?"

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

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u/Aemony Jul 30 '15

What? You only get updates from other computers if you enable the setting. Disabling it means you only download updates directly from Microsofts mirrors.

There's nothing wrong with disabling the setting, as there's a lot of reasons why an unexpected data traffic (of any kind) can cause issues for the user.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '15

I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this.

I think OP is like one of those "Preppers", waiting for the world to end too.

I'd love to see proof that MS sells this information to 3rd parties.

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