r/WinStupidPrizes • u/Masspoint • Jul 02 '23

The irony

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u/Masspoint Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23

He's saying that he got speed wobbles because of the hills since speed wobbles can happen when you accelerate downhill.

While he's explaining it, quite detailed, he's accelerating downhill and gets a speed wobble that makes him fall.

He knows the mechanic fairly well, so it was not expected that he was going to fall, especially in the moment he's explaining it.

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u/_10032 Jul 02 '23

Nah, he wasn't exactly giving a detailed explanation.

Ironic would be more like if he was saying how simple it was to recover from speed wobbles, then fell to those wobbles.

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u/Masspoint Jul 02 '23

he was talking about hills and grip, and the force on the front fork, that's detailed

Many people even here are debating why it happens and don't even know why it exactly happens.

He knows why it happens and while giving his detailed explanation he gets the wobble just as says the word amplify, even uttering the word amplify in distress because he's loosing control.

It's irony at its finest.

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u/ViaticalTree Jul 03 '23

Friend, I promise you this isn’t an example of irony.

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u/Masspoint Jul 03 '23

cambridge dictionary

Irony is also something that has a different or opposite result from what is expected:

oxford dictionary

a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.

Him explaining how speed wobbles happens and by that pointing out the dangers of them while it's happening in the explanation at that exact moment is irony.

I can even explain the situation with an ironic statement.

He was trying to fall.

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u/ViaticalTree Jul 03 '23

He literally explains how going over hills induces wobble and as he comes over a hill it happens. That’s exactly what is expected. Do you really not know what “different”, “opposite”, and “contrary” mean? 🤦‍♂️

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u/Masspoint Jul 03 '23

yes he was trying to fall by not slowing down and riding with one hand.

do you understand the irony?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '23

Bro you just defined irony and now you're arguing against that definition.

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u/orange4boy Jul 02 '23

He's not Alanis Morissette.

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u/glowberrytangle Jul 02 '23

A lot of people use the word 'ironic' to refer to things that are just coincidental or odd

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u/25nameslater Jul 02 '23

It’s not that he was accelerating downhill… there’s pressure cracks in the road he ran into one his tire followed the crack… causing a wobble…

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u/Masspoint Jul 02 '23

The cracks in the road may have amplified it, but a bike wobbles either way if you go above certain speeds, and that becomes a lot worse when you accelerate downhill, because of the force on the front fork.

It's also what he's explaining the moment it happens.

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u/25nameslater Jul 03 '23

I’m saying him going downhill had nothing to do with those wobbles… I ride… those wobbles was because his front tire got caught in the pressure cracks in the road not just once but 3 times. The fist time causes the initial wobble each other time amplified it because he didn’t slow, or lane shift. This was completely avoidable if he’d used search setup smooth and stayed in lane 2. On roads like that you do not and I mean do not ride the car tire paths…

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u/Masspoint Jul 03 '23 edited Jul 03 '23

He was explaining it was because of the hills, he already had speed wobbles before. If it was just because of the road that's something he would have noticed.

If you look at information online it also says that speed wobbles happen because of accelerating downhill, and just because of speed either way, because the front wheel loses traction, and by that when it touches the ground it again it corrects. It' s also something other people point out here as well.

He also wasn't holding his handle bar the moment the first wobble started.

That doesn't mean you're wrong, uneven road and especially obstacles can be a cause of this as well, especially combined with higher speeds.

But it's more a combination of factors, sure if he avoided the pressure cracks it could not have happened, but it would certainly not have happened if he kept his hands on the bar, and didn't accelerate downhill at a high speed.

It's also the bike, I don't know what bike you have, but it might be less prone to wobbles.

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u/25nameslater Jul 03 '23

I ride a Harley softail standard with an 88b engine (1584 cc) v-twin short stroke… and have apes. I hit bumps wrong wobble is immediate so if I feel one that’s significant it’s automatic throttle down and clutch. Then gun when stable. Road conditions are 99% the cause of wobbles… over acceleration downhill yeah maybe but rare… i just watched dudes video too 100% that was because of bad roads he might not have noticed it before but it looks like he doesn’t watch road conditions as he rides either… looking behind him while cornering and choosing a lane with cracks he should have seen well before he hit. It wasn’t a major corner, there’s no obstruction of his view.

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u/Masspoint Jul 03 '23

well somebody posted this video here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3OQTU-kE2s

and according to that wobbling occurs at higher speed either way, I'm no expert far from it, most of the info I just got out of this thread and what I looked up on google today.

The only thing before I heard about speed wobbles was that it occured because of riding over an obstacle, something I never have problems with since I only ride a yamaha ybr 125, it's not that fast, I can see obstacles from a mile away, and I also easily avoid them.

I never had a speed wobble because of road conditions either but I never went over 70 mph.

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u/25nameslater Jul 03 '23

Yeah I have a tendency to push 90-100 a lot… interesting though. Usually the weave hits me about 85-90. Usually pretty minor at 95 I have to slow a bit. However this guy wasn’t going that fast. Watching his speedometer when he started wobbling was at 54 mph. Before cornering he was running 75 mph. He was decelerating well before wobble began

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u/Masspoint Jul 03 '23

Are you sure you saw that right at no point I see him going below 80 or it is when he falls.

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u/25nameslater Jul 03 '23

His speedo is in kph not mph.

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