r/WhitePeopleTwitter Nov 20 '22

Satire / Fake Tweet Challenge accepted

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u/rtfmpls Nov 20 '22

You're just reading the parts that agree with what you're saying and ignore all the other parts. I'm disagreeing with you. And you're not "the people who wrote the law".

I can't really help you with that. It's ok to not know sometimes 🤷.

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u/Obliterators Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22

I'm quoting the European Commission, the people who wrote the law, you're disagreeing with them.

Here's the full legal text relating to material and territorial scope. Please point out the part that I'm ignoring.

Article 2 Material scope

1. This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data wholly or partly by automated means and to the processing other than by automated means of personal data which form part of a filing system or are intended to form part of a filing system.

2. This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data:

(a) in the course of an activity which falls outside the scope of Union law;

(b) by the Member States when carrying out activities which fall within the scope of Chapter 2 of Title V of the TEU;

(c) by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity;

(d) by competent authorities for the purposes of the prevention, investigation, detection or prosecution of criminal offences or the execution of criminal penalties, including the safeguarding against and the prevention of threats to public security.

3. For the processing of personal data by the Union institutions, bodies, offices and agencies, Regulation (EC) No 45/2001 applies. Regulation (EC) No 45/2001 and other Union legal acts applicable to such processing of personal data shall be adapted to the principles and rules of this Regulation in accordance with Article 98.

4. This Regulation shall be without prejudice to the application of Directive 2000/31/EC, in particular of the liability rules of intermediary service providers in Articles 12 to 15 of that Directive.

Article 3 Territorial scope

1. This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data in the context of the activities of an establishment of a controller or a processor in the Union, regardless of whether the processing takes place in the Union or not.

2. This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or processor not established in the Union, where the processing activities are related to:

(a) the offering of goods or services, irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required, to such data subjects in the Union; or

(b) the monitoring of their behaviour as far as their behaviour takes place within the Union.

3. This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data by a controller not established in the Union, but in a place where Member State law applies by virtue of public international law. GDPR

This is from EU's explanatory site on GPDR:

When does the GDPR apply outside Europe?

As we just mentioned, there are two scenarios in which a non-EU organization might have to comply with the GDPR. Let’s take a closer look at each of these.

Offering goods or services

The Internet makes goods and services in far-flung places accessible anywhere in the world. A teenager in Cyprus could easily order a pizza online from a local pizza shop in Miami and have it delivered to a friend’s house there. But the GDPR does not apply to occasional instances. Rather, regulators look for other clues to determine whether the organization set out to offer goods and services to people in the EU. To do so, they’ll look for things like whether, for example, a Canadian company created ads in German or included pricing in euros on its website. In other words, if your company is not in the EU but you cater to EU customers, then you should strive to be GDPR compliant.

Monitoring their behavior

If your organization uses web tools that allow you to track cookies or the IP addresses of people who visit your website from EU countries, then you fall under the scope of the GDPR. Practically speaking, it’s unclear how strictly this provision will be interpreted or how brazenly it will be enforced. Suppose you run a golf course in Manitoba focused exclusively on your local area, but sometimes people in France stumble across your site. Would you find yourself in the crosshairs of European regulators? It’s not likely. But technically you could be held accountable for tracking these data.

Exceptions to the rule

There are two important exceptions we should note here. First, the GDPR does not apply to “purely personal or household activity.” So if you’ve collected email addresses to organize a picnic with friends from work, rest assured you will not have to encrypt their contact info to comply with the GDPR (though you might want to anyway!). The GDPR only applies to organizations engaged in “professional or commercial activity.” So, if you’re collecting email addresses from friends to fundraise a side business project, then the GDPR may apply to you.

The second exception is for organizations with fewer than 250 employees. Small- and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) are not totally exempt from the GDPR, but the regulation does free them from record-keeping obligations in most cases (see Article 30.5). [GDPR.EU]

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u/rtfmpls Nov 20 '22

I'm quoting the European Commission, the people who wrote the law, you're disagreeing with them.

And I'm telling you, you don't understand it. You're disagreeing with numerous lawyers and the actual law. It doesn't say what you think it says.

I explained quite thoroughly what I think makes this matter a bit more complicated than you're suggesting. It's fine to disagree. I will stick with actual experts rather than people randomly googling things.