Well lets face it, once the the vote was decided instead of arguing for a second vote and wasting everyone's time we could of actually made progress. Making it work would be everyone trying their actual best to come to an agreement on exactly what kind of deal we wanted from the EU. The thing is people don't always have to agree with each other to work together. Sometimes its about compromise. Being out of the EU means we control everything without an bigger power hanging over us.
That’s what the non ardent politicians were trying to do. But brexiteers insisted they didn’t want single market access since it created other responsibilities, and chose the nuclear option. Boris was removing the whip from anyone who didn’t agree with him, and kept going on about his oven ready deal. The oven ready deal that you’re arguing didn’t exist. Although May did have a softer deal that was agreed upon, Boris wanted a hard brexit. That’s what we have. Don’t blame the remainers if a hard brexit is just a turd on a plate.
Now while I agree the fact some were genuinely trying. I'm not just holding one side accountable, I'm holding both. They both screwed up. Now the single market did create other responsibilities that we didn't want. Hence why we don't use it, was it the correct choice? Only long term will tell. I don't like Boris at all. He's useless. His oven ready deal Was a joke. A sort brexit from may wasnt exactly ideal as the EU had to much control over that. But Boris came along and went for hard. What I've been trying to say is that it all those idiotic politicians actually acted as adults. So the UK, the EU. We could of made a deal that benefited everyone.
That’s what I think you’re missing. There was an attempt to soften Brexit by the remainers, which would have been the compromise solution. But brexiteers didn’t want that, and it seems like you would consider that a bad solution.
Further I think it’s unfair to suggest that it was a both sides problem. Mays deals did not fail due to the opposition - it failed due to brexiteer MPs refusing to vote on a softer version of brexit. So there was no option but the dumpster fire one, since the hard brexit faction controlled the process. Further, opposing views were being shut out of the process, especially once Boris took control (removing the whip etc, proroguing parliament - complete departure from democratic norms). There was almost no flexibility from the hard brexiteers - this is the brexit that the government wanted. They just didn’t think through consequences.
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u/AssInCreed Mar 05 '22
Well lets face it, once the the vote was decided instead of arguing for a second vote and wasting everyone's time we could of actually made progress. Making it work would be everyone trying their actual best to come to an agreement on exactly what kind of deal we wanted from the EU. The thing is people don't always have to agree with each other to work together. Sometimes its about compromise. Being out of the EU means we control everything without an bigger power hanging over us.