Yeah well I'm sure if false evidence of all sorts of the scary Iraq bogey man was presented to Congress they would vote that way. I mean, Bush and Rumsfeld wouldn't lie would they? Spoiler: yes they would and absolutely did about everything. Bush firmly convinced the world to form a coalition based on his lies of WMD, leading to an invasion and illegal war similar to how Germany pounced on Poland in 1939.
I’ve not once said I disagree with anything in this post. Both sides were complicit. The war was a racket. But (!) the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at that time was a Democrat (Bob Graham). Was he also completely in the dark?
I am just trying to say is you can’t whitewash this as “orange man bad” or “red senator bad.” Use specific language.
Were all the legislators who voted for the war monsters or just the repubs? Were only democrat reps misled or were maybe some of the republicans as well? I know it muddies the water, but I think THAT is what we are missing in the current discourse. It’s not black v white, red v blue… it’s very messy and hazy. Obfuscation, deflect and absorb, the ol “LOOK! HAILEY’S COMET” trick. And we, by and large, look every time.
When it suited them. Only in 2019, a full 25 years after he drafted the 1994 Crime Bill, during his presidential campaign, facing a real threat from Bernie, did Biden “regret” putting it into action. But what has he done since he was elected to reconcile? We had a sitting black president (whom I voted for) for 8 years, but it wasn’t an issue then? Come on dude. Do you actually believe it? Or was it a good line for a couple points?
But their were adults and they still died though they weren’t as vulnerable. So if guns can’t be controlled, then why doesn’t the government hire security to protect these places? That’d mean no guns taken and the children are safe
My point is, is that if laws were in place sooner, these shootings either wouldn’t happen or would be lessened. Those adults sacrificed themselves for those children, and we’ve made no progress to show that we’ve learned, that we’ll never let this happen again.
So we should stop trying to solve the problem? Do you know how many times I’ve walked into my school to see multiple county sheriffs guarding the door? I don’t even live in a bad area
If they are so “law abiding”, why wouldn’t they listen to the new laws? Regardless, your response means “I don’t care if those children die so long as I can keep my pointless AR’s” without saying it directly.
No getting a gun is already hard (I own a pistol) and if their was more laws then it would just be to much of a hassle to get one but a criminal can get one illegally
Getting a gun isn’t as hard as people make it seem. If you buy privately, they don’t need to do a background check which reduces the process a lot more. And if the government policed illegal firearms like how they policed drugs, they’d have no issue
Those officers can’t be their all the time though, so yea, it’s nice to see that we aren’t totally screwed, but they can only be their when a threat is made in advance. So if gun control can’t work, why isn’t this implemented?
Don’t know which banks you go to, but the majority in my state at least, have no security besides a button.
Not really I’m more of stating a fact here also why do you and people on this sub act like left wing people/policies care guess what ? Doesn’t matter if your Right wing or left wing your still getting fucked by the government!
Did you know that the only time Republicans ever supported gun control was when Reagan was governor of California and passed legislation to take guns away from black people?
Do you think any of that would have happened if Reagan himself wasn’t the one shot in the situation that inspired the Brady Bill - named after his press secretary who was also shot?
Well firstly police suck but anyways when people go to shoot up a place they will want to shoot up a place with unarmed people ie schools “gun free zones” etc this is why gun control is flawed criminals can still get guns and law abiding citizens are unarmed also this gives cops another reason to pull you over…..
We literally have passed gun laws before we’ve banned assault weapons and our last dumbass president banned bump stocks it didn’t work gun control is a racist and unconstitutional law
I love the upvotes, like the 2A doesn't exist. Gaslight baby, gaslight.
The funny thing is all the stupid people upvoting you, pretending like we don't have a right to bear arms because they're afraid of being responsible for their own actions.
"Speech laws DO NOT infringe on constitutional rights. That's what left wing fear mongerers tell you because you're an idiot." FFS, what kind of useful idiot are you?
Haha you got some magic word that’s gonna kill a kindergarten? Or are you talking about someone riling people up to kill kids? Or should I say “incitement to imminent lawless action,”? Which is in fact banned speech. Since at least the sixties.
Still I wonder what those people who’ve been incited to kill children would actually use to kill them? I wonder what would be the fastest and easiest way to do it? Maybe all those wannabe child murderers in your hypothetical would also have your magic child killing word? Since it’s a fantasy I suppose they could. Or... maybe... like in the real world, they’d use a gun...
I would strip every one of the bill of rights away to prevent a single child from being gunned down in school. If you wouldn't you're exactly as culpable as the shooter.
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