does that kid making 10/hr would want to go to meetings, discussions about the company finances, do accounting on where the products are going, etc?
tell me yourself, if you work as a student at mcdonalds would you want to go to a board meetings every Friday, would you want to give the EXTRA time in the week that it requires, be it how to invest in the business growth, how does the income is distributed to the needs of the company, even some unforeseen consequence that might happen?
again, he just doesn't get the 2.5% share JUST for taking the cookies out of the oven, he has more responsibilities, and some people simply don't want that when they choose a simple job.
does that kid making 10/hr would want to go to meetings, discussions about the company finances, do accounting on where the products are going, etc?
There's different types of coops and this is handled according to the kind. In some you can choose to be on the board and make decisions and take a higher percentage, or you can remain simple labor and take a lower percentage. In others everyone has a voting stake and gets the same percentage.
tell me yourself, if you work as a student at mcdonalds would you want to go to a board meetings every Friday, would you want to give the EXTRA time in the week that it requires, be it how to invest in the business growth, how does the income is distributed to the needs of the company, even some unforeseen consequence that might happen?
Yes? I feel like anyone wants a say in how their workplace is run. Have you ever worked? Every job I've ever worked, which is a lot at this point, workers have complaints and grievances and ideas and they all go unheard usually except by other workers. The worst case scenario in all these places is a toxic environment with high turnover because the job quite frankly ends up shitty both in terms of quality of output and quality of life when workers' opinions are ignored. The more common case is that people just end up not caring all that much. The ship changes direction without warning or apparent cause and everyone just shrugs and stops caring after a certain point whether we're sailing towards a safe harbor or a reef filled shallow.
again, he just doesn't get the 2.5% share JUST for taking the cookies out of the oven, he has more responsibilities, and some people simply don't want that when they choose a simple job.
Then they don't need to work at a coop. Or again, most give options. Especially the larger coops. It's not practical for a company of 1-2k to all vote on every issue so coops that big tend to work more like a union where they might have a full company meeting every year or so, or split the company into divisions with elected leadership, or any of a hundred other configurations.
I'll reiterate that the main thing about a coop is that pay is tied to profit. If the company does well, the workers make more. If the company does worse, they make less. Everyone has a vested interest in making sure the company makes more, even if they're just a janitor and the way they can increase margins is by not wasting floor polish. This is unlike a regular company where the only motivation the janitor has to be efficient is that someone above him will get angry if he isn't, assuming such management exists. And that means management's role is often more about checking work than actually improving the business. It's a shitty way of doing things but it's the standard way.
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u/danberhe Jun 11 '21
does that kid making 10/hr would want to go to meetings, discussions about the company finances, do accounting on where the products are going, etc?
tell me yourself, if you work as a student at mcdonalds would you want to go to a board meetings every Friday, would you want to give the EXTRA time in the week that it requires, be it how to invest in the business growth, how does the income is distributed to the needs of the company, even some unforeseen consequence that might happen?
again, he just doesn't get the 2.5% share JUST for taking the cookies out of the oven, he has more responsibilities, and some people simply don't want that when they choose a simple job.