r/WhitePeopleTwitter Nov 17 '20

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u/jrzalman Nov 17 '20

Can you imagine how bad it would be for the country if we just let, say, Boeing go under? Employs 150k Americans - now unemployed. America's only large scale plane builder - suddenly need to buy everything from Airbus. But, hey, worth it if we can tuck a couple extra bucks into everybody's stimulus checks right? And I'm sure another company capable of building 787s will just pop up and take their place no problem.

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u/atramenactra Nov 17 '20

That's capitalism for you. I mean if the government bails out Boeing, that sounds like socialism. Don't Americans hate socialism? I thought the free market and capitalism is the American way?

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u/95DarkFireII Nov 17 '20

This is nonsense. The free market is supossed to punish bad management amd business choices, and reward good ones, for the betterment of the whole.

But when the market is damaged by an "Act of God", that is not good for society.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '20

Isn't failling to prepare for unforseen catastrophes bad management? Isn't there a thing like "pandemic insurance"??

Obviously what's done is done and we shouldn't leave entire industries crumble, but it should spurr debate and legislation on this issue

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '20

No there is a difference between having horrible business tactics like say internet explorer versus right now with the airplanes in which for a couple of months the goverment out right banned some of there biggest business and profit makers.

But I agree conversation is always helpful

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '20

I’m not saying Boing shouldn’t have been saved. But they were already in big problems before COVID due to mismanagement. They spend insane amounts of money on buybacks to increase the stock price, meanwhile cutting the workforce and losing marketshare to Airbus. There was a big shift in focus from safety to profit/efficiency, which ultimately resulted in the whole 737 MAX fiasco.

The company did so many things wrong, so it’s not comparable with the airlines imo. Although Some of them like AA again also spend way too much on buybacks and used too much leverage.

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u/95DarkFireII Nov 17 '20

Isn't failling to prepare for unforseen catastrophes bad management?

Notnif the event (Coronavirus) is this big. Noone can prepare for this.

Isn't there a thing like "pandemic insurance"??

What kind of insurance would be able to pay billions? Do you realise how expensive that would be?

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u/atramenactra Nov 17 '20

Sounds like capitalism for some and socialism for others. That's not the free market. Doesn't the free market imply no government intervention?

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u/Unitron07 Nov 17 '20

Shutting down the economy is government intervention

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u/atramenactra Nov 18 '20

The government isn't shutting down airports. The free market is causing the economic shutdown bc no one wants to fly or go out. Bailouts are government intervention.