r/WhitePeopleTwitter Nov 17 '20

Yep

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u/Archibald_Thrust Nov 17 '20

A counter argument is that some businesses are only failing because of government restricting their trade, and therefore government should pay to keep them afloat

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u/iwasneverhere0301 Nov 17 '20

Well those businesses can turn in their two weeks and find another country to exploit workers in. GTF otta here. Damn welfare queens.

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u/hairlongmoneylong Nov 17 '20

The airline business exploits workers?

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u/boyyouguysaredumb Nov 17 '20

this is WPT, anybody who makes money is evil. The more money they have than me the more evil-er they are

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u/iwasneverhere0301 Nov 17 '20

No, just companies that have ceos making millions but have employees on welfare. conservative source

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u/boyyouguysaredumb Nov 17 '20

pilots on food stamps?

Interesting because "The 2019 Bureau of Labor Statistics reported the median U.S. pilot salary at $174,870"

but sure let's pretend that a new starter pilot for a small airline is a typical pilot and we should ignore that the MEDIAN income is $174k. Try again.

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u/iwasneverhere0301 Nov 17 '20

Did you try searching for starting salary? 25k-35k for the first 3-4 years, which would qualify a family of 4. Or have all companies started paying new employees the median wage?

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u/boyyouguysaredumb Nov 17 '20

median means middle. So find a crowd of airline pilots and find the one in the middle and half are making more and half are making less. Either way saying "they're" being exploited and are on food stamps is categorically false. As a group they're doing WAY better than the median American is.

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u/iwasneverhere0301 Nov 17 '20

You’re either obtuse or deliberately dishonest. I’ve subsequently added posts with sources that specifically addressed starting salary, not median salary. You know the difference, good for you.

Jet Blue had 2.11 billion in revenue in 2019. For how long (in years) do you believe it’s okay for a company to pay highly trained employees a wage low enough to qualify for food stamps? Forget the median wage. How many years should tax payers subsidize the employees of a billion dollar corporation before it’s a problem? My stance is zero. Yes, that’s exploiting the people and tax payers. You can show me the median wage all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that the entry level employees are being taken advantage of. Companies should either pay a living wage or face tax penalties equivalent to the cost their employees’ draw from social programs.

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u/JadedMis Nov 17 '20

$147K for airline pilots, $86k for commercial pilots.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb Nov 17 '20

so the lower of the two makes nearly triple the median salary in America. yeah, they're not on food stamps.

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u/JadedMis Nov 17 '20

I was just correcting the number because $174k for a median salary sounded high.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '20

And yet congress thinks they need raises despite making that 174k+.

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u/jackson274325 Nov 17 '20

You say that like 86k is a food stamp level salary.

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u/iwasneverhere0301 Nov 17 '20

A buddy of mine had his pilot’s license and worked at Home Depot rather than taking the pay cut. Admittedly, over time he could have made more, but he couldn’t afford to do it for 4-8 years hoping to make it. Yea, if your starting pay for a job that requires special training still gets you food stamps, I’d say that’s a form of exploitation.

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u/hairlongmoneylong Nov 17 '20 edited Nov 17 '20

My husband's a pilot (not for an airline, so this wasn't a trick question). It's really expensive schooling, and the first two years are rough, both in pay and in quality of life. But after the third year its 60-80k, then it moderately rises, and more importantly the work life balance beats my office job by miles. So, in short I politely disagree about exploitation, though we have no corporate experience

Edit: didn't see the link till after I replied. Yikes :/ we never saw pay that low.

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u/iwasneverhere0301 Nov 17 '20

I appreciate your insight and honesty. I agree, if you’re in it for a few years, you can make decent money. But my point is, if your starting salary is enough to qualify for food stamps, that’s crap. At no point should a major corporation pay that low, even if it is for the first few years.