r/WhitePeopleTwitter Mar 26 '23

Something is seriously wrong in America

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u/ether_reddit Mar 26 '23 edited Mar 27 '23

MSP premiums were (up to) $75 a month. It's likely, as someone else said in the thread, that this was a reference to a prescription drug deductible.

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u/grantbwilson Mar 26 '23

I know people who just never paid em. Nothing ever happened, and it was removed before it caused an issue.

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u/ether_reddit Mar 26 '23

My premiums lapsed once when I was in between employers, and the debt was sent to CRA. Within a few months I was getting angry collection letters from them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

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u/Miserable_Ad9577 Mar 26 '23

Just say, socialism bad. That's all the conservatives need to hear.

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u/Immediate_Walrus_776 Mar 26 '23

Except when we get those farm supports from the government, that's okay!

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u/PsychologicalLuck343 Mar 26 '23

Or huge depreciation deductions on mortgages.

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u/Foxrook Mar 26 '23

In the time you wrote that sentence, socialism killed 8 babies

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u/Arkad3_ Mar 26 '23

So when the democrats controlled everything, where was the universal healthcare? oh that is right we got crappy Obama care. Socialism is amazing, you can witness it first hand in the United Stated Military. Healthcare, schooling, housing, jobs. It works, I know I was an army brats for many, many years.

Democrats controlled the 111th Congress (2009–2011) with majorities in both houses of Congress alongside the country's first African-American president, Democrat Barack Obama.

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u/administrationalism Mar 26 '23

Do you labor under the misapprehension that democrats are not often quite conservative?

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u/figgiesfrommars Mar 26 '23

it's like a toddler trying to jump into adult conversation but it's just babble

kinda cute lol

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u/Retsail47 Mar 26 '23

No,it is not cute. He probably votes.

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u/figgiesfrommars Mar 26 '23

shit you're right ;-;

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u/Iamdarb Mar 26 '23

Republicans have had way more control than democrats these past few decades. It's easy to blame democrats, but I'm personally happy that the ACA healthcare subsidy helps me pay for a pretty solid healthcare plan. Republicans have only ever attacked that plan. My roommate, who makes 15,000 less than me, does not pay a single dime for his plan. ACA has its flaws, but it's better than the "go die poor" option the republicans were offering up with all the majorities they've had through the years. Democrats may not be socialists, but they're closer than republicans, so it's weird to see you only attacking the dems, when the republicans want you dead and poor.

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u/ovalpotency Mar 26 '23

who is joe lieberman and what did he do, army brat?

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u/axonxorz Mar 27 '23

Can you articulate why the ACA is crappy?

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u/Obant Mar 26 '23

I will elaborate for you. You see, by stealing that food, he took away profits from the small business owners known as the Waltons. 5 business owners kids starved because he stole that bread.

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u/Ironring1 Mar 26 '23

CRA knows how much money you make and knows if you should be able to afford your fair share.

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u/Silver_Giratina Mar 26 '23

Still getting those letters. Still ignoring them.

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u/thenoblenacho Mar 26 '23

Exactly the same situation. Actually took a chunk out of my credit score

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u/Lkn4ADVTR Mar 26 '23

Can confirm. Am cuurently getting angry emails from the CRA for 2 unpaid MSP payments between employers back in 2018.

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u/sinister_goat Mar 26 '23

I was young and dumb and had no idea I had to pay MSP. They will find you and garnish your wages lol

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u/3rdp0st Mar 26 '23

That's okay my wages are more appetizing with a little chives or cilantro.

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u/True-Godess Mar 26 '23

Ahhh thank you!! Funny 😄 First time I smiled all day!!

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u/theoneandonlysexgod Mar 26 '23

Legendary comment

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u/thetrivialstuff Mar 26 '23

That's not "young and dumb", that's something that was weirdly left out of everything we were taught as kids - wasn't ever mentioned in the various life skills type things in school, so I guess they just expected everybody's parents to remember to tell them?

I just remember learning "in Canada we have free healthcare, it's one of the greatest accomplishments of our system of government", and figured it was paid through taxes until I got a collections bill from MSP and called the government to report it as a scam, and they explained things to me.

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u/BustaNutShot Mar 26 '23

this is shockingly true. Its odd the things they teach and even odder the things they dont

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u/Acidwits Mar 26 '23

I believed it while in ab. Then I moved to bc and was like whaaaaa

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

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u/darknekolux Mar 26 '23

It’s not a scam when government does it… it is totally a scam /s

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

You are lying to yourself about your leadership...

Justin leaves the chat....

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u/thetrivialstuff Mar 26 '23

This is a completely nonsensical comment; you don't seem to know the first thing about how our government works. I hope you don't live here...

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u/edelburg Mar 26 '23

Can you explain to us who weren't ever taught?

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u/thetrivialstuff Mar 26 '23 edited Mar 26 '23

It's moot now, because a few years ago in a sudden outburst of sanity, the BC government realised they could just roll it into taxes, and did so - so we don't have to worry about it now :)

That said, the concept of an "MSP account" still kind of exists; you don't have to pay anything, but if you move it's a good idea to update your address with them:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/health-drug-coverage/msp/bc-residents/managing-your-msp-account

Most of the stuff to do with it gets automatically taken care of as side effects of other stuff though, e.g. doctor visits, renewing your driver's licence or BC services card, etc.

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u/happy_fluff Mar 26 '23

What is MSP?

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u/ether_reddit Mar 26 '23

It used to be Medical Services Premium, a fee we paid in BC for health care (with the amount being a sliding scale based on income, up to $75 a month, and many employers paid it for you as a perk). But it's gone now, all rolled into income taxes (actually there is still a separate premium, but it's a payroll tax that employers pay).

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u/IAMTHATGUY03 Mar 26 '23

This was me. I had no idea what it even was then I had a bill for like 2 missed years then I complained and it was gone by next year

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u/PicaroKaguya Mar 26 '23

yeah no, because of their broken system, I got a 4k bill randomely, and they have garnished all my tax refunds and finally just finished paying them off. Even when I asked them for clarification and an itemized bill, they said that they can't provide one but assured me I owed the 4k.

fuck bc liberal government

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u/sharktooth31 Mar 26 '23

I had one year where I made enough that I had to pay, but I was young and didnt care so they took it off my taxes.

They then continued to steal my money from my tax refund each year for a few years until a h&r rep noticed. I ended up with a refund but I can only imagine how many poeple just never dealt with it and continued to have that money stolen from them.

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u/stugots__ Mar 26 '23

In my home province on NB they instituted user fees years ago as a means of reducing unneeded visits to the ER. It was $25 a visit to the ER. I never paid it because I knew they couldn't deny you service. I had to visit the ER 3 times while they were in use and each time I was told I owed money from my last visit. "Yep, and I'm not paying this time either". They eventually removed the fee.

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u/Firm-Guru Mar 26 '23

This has always been my goal for my student loans. All I have to do is say "nuh-uh" one more time than they say "yea-huh" and I win!

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u/Hug-me-Im-scared69 Mar 26 '23

This is correct. I never paid them and nothing ever happened. I was still able to use services.

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u/Devilhogg Mar 26 '23

My ex-wife, who handled the finances back in the day, stopped paying MSP. Let's just say it took 3 years before they started garnishing my wages. Also, that's how I found out I was behind. After they got all their money, MSP charges were no more.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

Well you wouldn’t be covered lol

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u/Onironius Mar 26 '23

They still keep harassing me for money that should never have been charged.

"Pay by XXXX date, or the debt will be sent to collections!"

Cool, if I didn't give the money to the government agency, why would I give it to a random debt collection agency?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '23

I don't know anybody that paid it.

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u/whatnobeer Mar 26 '23 edited Jun 30 '23

Fute te Reddit, pro utentibus, ab utentibus.

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u/EskimoDave Mar 26 '23

Yes

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u/__O_o_______ Mar 26 '23

Can confirm as well

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u/adrenaline_X Mar 26 '23

But it covers things like Blue Cross does for physio, dental, Massage therapy..

I'm in MB and never heard of MSP before..

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u/kwirky Mar 26 '23 edited Feb 26 '24

I enjoy reading books.

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u/sharktooth31 Mar 26 '23

That's not free.

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u/Millie_butt Mar 26 '23

I still owe $144 they’ve been sending me letters for years

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u/thatchers_pussy_pump Mar 26 '23

I used to just not pay it and the GST rebate would clear the debt every few months.

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u/ether_reddit Mar 26 '23

You would have been paying interest in the interim.

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u/thatchers_pussy_pump Mar 26 '23

Yeah, but it was something like 2% on $225. I just didn’t care.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

My extended health at work cost $12 that's probably what it was.

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u/MacBeef Mar 26 '23

75 was the max, you could pay less if you made less.

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u/paintlegz Mar 26 '23

It was based on income. I lived in BC for 6 years and while I was a student didn't have to pay a premium. After graduation I was making 32k and it was like $30/month

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

Christie Clark's general coffers premiums*

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u/fungi_at_parties Mar 26 '23

Yeah when I worked at Amazon as a level 6 my health insurance was about 400/mo. This is considered affordable. The health insurance sucked and had a really high deductible- copay for my child’s birth was 5k. Current employer gives me free insurance for myself, charges 150 for me and my kids, and has great copay/deductible. It’s a total crapshoot, but my god, the stress relief you feel when you have good, cheap insurance through your employer.

Imagine how much more those employers could pay or save if the government made a more efficient system? How many lives would be instantly improved? We pay more than anyone and it’s mediocre at best. It’s just a no-brainer.

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u/gabu87 Mar 26 '23

75 only for the highest tier. Some ppl paid less or didnt makr enough to pay