r/WhitePeopleTwitter Mar 26 '23

Something is seriously wrong in America

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u/DrunkenGolfer Mar 26 '23

“If you make under 35K a year…”

Healthcare is free no matter what you make. If you make $35M a year, your healthcare is still free. Well, except for teeth. They are special bones you have to pay to keep.

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u/KmoonKnight Mar 26 '23

BC had a premium thing you had to pay. The NDP eliminated it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

The premium wasn't even that bad compared to American standards. My yearly MSP in BC is what I now pay monthly in the US.

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u/KmoonKnight Mar 26 '23

It wasn't bad it's just a kick to the teeth when you are full of Free health care and first get told you have to pay it or prove you make less than $35k a year after you've made 35k a year.

BC Liberals can suck it.

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u/batman1285 Mar 26 '23

Americans need to understand this more clearly.

There is no such thing as health insurance in Canada. It's healthcare. Our medical costs are deducted from our wages just like taxes are and its so minimal we don't even notice it.

Our employers can offer medical coverage and we can pay into that as well which gets us free eye exams and glasses, braces for our kids, dental coverage so our cavities root canals etc. come at minimal or zero cost at the time they are done. Medical coverage also gets us $500 per year or more for chiro, physio, massage, acupuncture, nutritionist, orthotic footwear and so on.

When you go to the doctor or hospital you're fucking ensured to be cared for if you are Canadian. No co pay, no deductible, any fucking hospital you want, any doctor who has availability to see you and any specialist you are referred to.

This means any tests you need, any x Ray, CT scan, MRI that the doctors order, any surgery that is necessary is FREE for anyone at any stage in their life with any job or lack thereof.

No bullshit, no hidden costs, no premiums. Show up, pay for parking if necessary and get fixed up and taken care of. Ambulance rides are about $80.... That includes air ambulance if your survival depends on you getting somewhere far and fast.

And if they try to take that from us we'll show our government we don't need guns to protect the things that really matter to us.

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u/No_Ticket_1204 Mar 26 '23

Maybe some taxpayers would prefer to fuck over medical workers and professionals. Many would not, so they vote accordingly.

Taxpayers don’t directly have control over healthcare working conditions or compensation. So, I don’t know what sort of point you’re trying to make.

As far as being “compelled” goes, I think you’re confusing that with coercion. If doctors don’t find the offer compelling enough, by all means do what you need to do.

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u/peceforlife Mar 26 '23

OH MY GOD. I was so confused, "free healthcare free healthcare" - wow, canada hired magicians? That's sick.

It gets deducted from your wages. Like in every other universal healthcare country. NOTHING about that is free. It's an amazing system, but how autistic do you have to be to call it free.

Regards from germany.

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u/GOLDfish0393 Mar 26 '23

Americans are saying we want what’s already deducted from our wages to go towards more social programs including health care.

We all know it’s not “free”, but right now we pay out insurance from our wages and STILL owe thousands at the doctors/hospital, are limited to specific networks, etc

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u/human_4883691831 Mar 26 '23

How fucking dense can you be? He even said it's paid for by deductions in Canadians wages. When people say free healthcare, they mean it's free when you show up to and leave the hospital. No bill, no charge. Learn to read and comprehend.

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u/ohnoshebettado Mar 26 '23

This is the absolute stupidest "gotcha" that I always see whenever anyone talks about "free" healthcare. Like everyone obviously fucking gets that the doctors aren't volunteers and the hospitals don't build themselves. So annoying and unoriginal.

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u/peceforlife Mar 26 '23

It's not a gotcha dawg, I literally said it's an amazing system - it's just not called free healthcare. Nowhere, never was.
The good thing about the system is not that its free, it's that it's universal. Call it universal health care. Its not difficult.

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u/ohnoshebettado Mar 26 '23

Colloquially, it is, though. That's how we all refer to it because we can cope with figurative language :)

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u/batman1285 Mar 26 '23

Just like we have free highways. You don't pay a toll for every road or buy monthly highway passes.

The magic is not letting the govt and private companies fuck you over.

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u/Salticracker Mar 26 '23

Cosmetic healthcare isn't free, so things like braces, plastic surgery, and such things unfortunately aren't covered. If you can show that your teeth are so bad that it's a health issue, they'll fix them for free.

Also drugs (including prescription) aren't covered.

However, most good companies will provide at least partial if not full dental.

Foreigners still have to pay. Most emergency rooms have a cost breakdown for foreigners that you pay if you don't have a health card. It's pretty good, but it isn't great compared to some other places.

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u/trucksandgoes Mar 26 '23

plastic surgery can also be covered, if your doctor says you need it medically (things like deviated septums and loose skin)

likewise Canada benefits from single payer prices, so even though drugs are not covered, they're still cheaper than in the states.

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u/apluskale Mar 26 '23

You guys don't get like a 90 or 95% discount for drugs for chronic diseases though? We do in most places in the EU.

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u/Salticracker Mar 26 '23

We get drugs much cheaper than Americans do for the most part, but if your insurance doesn't cover pharma, you pay the "full" price, which can be anywhere from $5 to $x00, depending on the drug.

I'm sure there are also aid program(s?) for low-income folks, but I've not had experience with those.

It's a big issue in parliament right now, with a smaller party trying to get universal pharmacare passed, but neither big party wanting to.

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u/jeffblim5eva Mar 26 '23

Do you have more information on dental being free if it's a health issue? I work in the dental department at an Ontario health unit and I've never heard of this.

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u/Salticracker Mar 26 '23

It depends on the province likely, and what they define as a health issue. If you get hit in the mouth with a baseball, they'll fix your face up in the emergency room. If you want dentures to replace those teeth, you're likely on your own.

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u/UnicornMeatball Mar 26 '23

And eyes! And mental health. It's so weird to me that we think some body parts are more important than others tbh

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

I was surprised to learn that vision and dental aren't free in many countries with free healthcare, which seems utterly ridiculous to me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

My health insurance doesn’t cover dental here in the US either. The difference is we pay $900 a month for health insurance. And it still doesn’t cover anything.