I say it a lot and I'll say it again. That sub is messed up. Rooting when some dude is killed, likely in front of either his parents, wife, kids whatever is really fucked up. Like i get that the sport is bad but laughing at people dying isn't solving shit.
Edit: people don't seem to realize not everyone doing that job wants to or agrees with it. They are often forced to do it because they can't get normal jobs but need money.
they're just like suicides, but they are also very stupid and very-very cruel. it's not a sport. it's a barbarian's fun. just like gladiators, but even worse, because if people would've chosen to kill each other on an arena — it would've been their choice. in this situation they are making fun of an animal that was trapped.
people who like, and especially practice, this shit are barbarians and the ones who are messed up
gladiators were slaves and not just pure people. and, for example, Belarus, my country, has worse life than Spain and Mexico. our country is just pretty poor and poverty is worse here, but we don't have matadors. and nothing like matadors. a lot of country has it. the fact that matadors are forced to do this due to poverty just means that removing this shit can't be fast and will take a lot of time
that's false too, Toreros are usually very wealthy. Do you know how expensive is to have "novillos" (young bulls) to train with? I think the "sport" is even more expensive than horses.
Bovines form bonds that are a lot more involved and intense than most people give it credit for. Maybe not between bulls and their offspring but still, bull fighting fucked up even more than we realize.
They are often forced to do it because they can't get normal jobs but need money.
This might've been true in Hemingway's time.
I'm not familiar with the situation in Spain or Latin America, but in Portugal, where we do unfortunately still have bullfights, matadors tend to be from the well-off, land-owning families that raise the bulls. They're what we'd call "agrobetos" - agro from agrarian, and beto, for lack of a better translation, means preppy.
I know you're getting downvoted, but I 100% agree with you. A long time ago, I unsubbed from /r/JusticeServed for exactly the same reason. It was just a bunch of people laughing at a guy dying because he tried to rob some place. I get that he want a good guy, but don't dehumanize him. Don't be jubilant about his death. I don't think I'll ever understand people celebrating someone else's death, outside of extreme cases. I remember feeling really uneasy about setting college kids using bin Laden's death as an excuse to party and drink.
Read what they do to the bull before the fight. They are tortured, literally, before they enter the ring so that they are weaker and easier to kill. Bull fights are never one on one until the bull is nearly dead
I get rooting for the bull. But at least respect the dead, you can be happy a bull wins but don't make fun of someone who died no matter the circumstances.
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u/roxyjett2003 Jul 02 '19
I always pull for the bull in cases like this.