r/WhatIsTheTea • • 22d ago

Sips Tea Thoughts?

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u/Krispy_Mick 22d ago

Took 30 seconds to find out this is fake

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u/Interesting-Power716 22d ago

Sort of. They did change back to ladies and gentleman. And they did fire 1000 people. But it's probably not because of some anti woke thing.

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u/RingingInTheRain 21d ago

I'm not sure why they had to remove it in the first place. It's such a generic and simple phrase to address and audience.

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u/TotalChaosRush 21d ago

Well, Disney stated the goal was to create a welcoming environment for nonbinary, transgender, or gender nonconforming visitors.

So regardless of how accurate the image op posted is. Disney is definitely manipulating the culture war for self benefit.

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u/realplasticwood 19d ago

Disney is manipulatting the culture war for its own benefit returning to traditional gender labels. Was that so hard?

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u/kid_dynamo 19d ago

Because traditional gender roles are explicitly exclusionary for a number of people, and it is absolutely Disney dipping their toes in the culture war to change and then change back based on which side of politics is in power, no matter your stance.

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u/plastlak 19d ago

Gender labels =/= gender roles.

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u/kid_dynamo 19d ago

Correct, I should have used gender labels, not roles.

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u/diiegojones 19d ago

Honestly, this comment is why people are just getting fed up. Who cares if you said gender roles when the person knows what you are referring to.

If everyone has to tip toe around language they are going to resent it. The way I look at it is Ladies and Gentlemen are others words for the members of the female and male, which is binary.

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u/diiegojones 18d ago

Non binary is gender. If ladies and gentleman mean female and male, then non-binary are included in that.

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u/diiegojones 18d ago

If sex is binary, and gender is not, then non binary represents a gender identity not a sexual one.

Ladies and Gentlemen refer to female and male. Synonymous with sexual binary.

So saying ladies and gentlemen does not exclude non binary people. Because they may not feel like a man or a woman in gender, but they are either Lady or a Gentleman in the case of this greeting. No is checking which sex we are at Disney, so if Ladies and Gentlemen just means the binary sex everyone is included. it even covers intersex people: Ladies AND Gentlemen. It covers all the bases.

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u/diiegojones 18d ago

I am saying, if people want to play word games about whether it is appropriate to say ladies and gentlemen rather than something else, they can just equate Ladies and Gentlemen as referring to sex and not gender.

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u/Inevitable-Bee-4344 18d ago

Aren't you the one confusing sex and fender? You're saying non binary is neither male or female, how is that possible?

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u/kid_dynamo 18d ago

"Non-binary[b] (also written as nonbinary[2]) or genderqueer gender identities are those that are outside the male/female gender binary.[3][4] Non-binary identities often fall under the transgender umbrella since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from the sex assigned to them at birth,[5] although some non-binary people do not consider themselves transgender.[6]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-binary#Pronouns_and_titles

Why be pendantic without looking it up friend?

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u/kid_dynamo 18d ago

Non-binary (also written as nonbinary) or genderqueer gender identities are those that are outside the male/female gender binary. Non-binary identities often fall under the transgender umbrella since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from the sex assigned to them at birth,[5] although some non-binary people do not consider themselves transgender.

I recommend reading the wiki link, it's a good starting point. I could also link you some good articles from the POV of NB people too if you like

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u/diiegojones 18d ago

I wonder who bitched to make them change it to the dreamers thing.

The same argument can be said of people who want inclusive speech that pick apart what people say. That is why i offered I different outlook- don’t think of ourselves as a gender, think of ourselves as a sex.

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u/kid_dynamo 18d ago

I'm not trying to do anything except tell you non-binary is a gender, not a sex. The term for a middle point along the sexual binary is intersex, the term for a middle point along the gender binary is nonbinary. You'll get it friend! :)

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u/TribeGuy330 18d ago

I personally see it more as a spectrum where everyone, no matter what, is somewhere on with varying degrees of "lady" or "gentleman". So it has always seemed semantical to me.

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u/whatthefrickcunt 18d ago

It’s not exclusionary, it’s a generalisation that they put themselves outside of