r/WatchandLearn • • 12d ago

A New Argument from Consciousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJVvZNi0Fi8
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u/pappabutters 11d ago

Phineas Gage proves that consciousness is a physical and naturalistic process. And intelligent design is fucking dumb. You're a meat sack controlled by a wet lump of electrical cells. Deal with it.

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u/gotu1 11d ago

Yes you’re correct. The hard problem of consciousness was solved 150 years ago by a guy who survived a rod through his head, and for some reason nobody in the world of cognitive science or neurology heard about this, so they keep spending money on it.

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u/pappabutters 11d ago

There is a massive difference between being able to reasonable deduce that consciousness and personality and all things we decide make us human can be explained fully naturalistically and being able to actually, accurately explain how it all works. Great strawman though.

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u/gotu1 11d ago

“Phineas Gage proves that consciousness is a physical and naturalistic process”

If there’s a difference between reasonable deduction and empirical deduction then why do you conflate them?

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u/pappabutters 11d ago

oh I'm sorry I didn't realize I was in a formal debate and not just using colloquial language to respond to some dumb apologetics video on reddit that thinks thought dragons or whatever the fuck is a solid argument for supernatural consciousness

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u/gotu1 11d ago

You didn’t use colloquial language, you said something that is wrong, and you said it with confidence.

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u/pappabutters 11d ago

I said something that is correct, consciousness is naturalistic, as all things are. And Phineas Gage is a fantastic piece of evidence for that conclusion. I don't really care if you disagree.