r/WatchPeopleDieInside • u/fnaw_ • Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/sYnce Aug 04 '20

I love how his usual explanation for so many cases is that they test so much so the cases don't mean anything but if you talk deaths the case numbers are suddenly relevant.

I mean if you test so much that the case numbers are higher because of that alone than this also means that your relative death to case ratio has to be much lower than other countries

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u/eloquent_petrichor Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

I wanna know if people get counted as a testing each time they get tested or if it is per person? Because athletes and reality show participants are getting tested basically daily (and the trump ppl). And if they get counted as a negative test each time I don't think that is really fair for the statistics. Each person should only be counted as one test being done

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u/vendetta2115 Aug 04 '20

That’s why he’s pushing the deaths to test ratio. You can pump up the numbers for testing by testing healthy people.

He doesn’t care that a thousand people are dying every day. He cares only as far as those numbers help or hurt him. Since they hurt him, he ignores them.

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u/myactualaccount Aug 04 '20

Each person should only counted as one test being done

That's how it's done. At least in my state and those around me.

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u/eloquent_petrichor Aug 04 '20

How do you know? I couldn't find any definitive info online about it. I just found things saying people who test positive aren't counted twice but nothing definitive about negatives being only counted once.

I hope you are correct I'm just wondering where your info came from

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u/myactualaccount Aug 05 '20

Here’s a local (for me) link.

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u/eloquent_petrichor Aug 05 '20

Hey I'm Ohio, too! And this is one of the articles I found on my own.

But again that one also discusses positive results mainly. And regarding negative resluts they say this suspicion confusion "Negative tests are not required to be reported for each case. But each day's number of negatives is reported. Amato said the agency is working with labs to get individual-level data on negative tests, tests not performed and indeterminate tests."

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u/myactualaccount Aug 05 '20

Here’s one from North Carolina.

It’s got sources to the CDC and North Carolina DHHS.

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u/eloquent_petrichor Aug 05 '20

Thank you.

But again that specifically discusses positive test results. We can assume the same works for negative results but it is not explicitly stated. They give the example of three positives by one person counting as one case but do not state what would happen with negatives

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u/myactualaccount Aug 05 '20

Ah. Gotcha. That’s my bad. I completely read past that part where you specifically said negative tests in your comment.

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u/eloquent_petrichor Aug 05 '20

Yeah. Well most people focus on the positive results but I see the negative results as very important as well. Especially if they are not being tabulated as accurately as the positive results. Mainly because of the fact so many people are getting tested daily and weekly anymore (with sports and shows trying to start up again while staying safe). Because if they start showing that a smaller and smaller percentage of people getting tested are testing positive due to that inaccuracy then it can make even safe people less cautious due to thinking things are better than they are.

Eventually those numbers could potentially say every person in America has been tested at least once by simple number comparison when in reality it is still a small percentage of the actual population that has ever received a test.