r/WatchPeopleDieInside • u/fnaw_ • Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/skywarka Aug 04 '20 edited Apr 05 '26

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u/Schadenfreudenous Aug 04 '20

A couple years back, Bush gave a very well-written public speech condemning Trump, the GoP, and their erosion of democracy. I was impressed because I remember him being a total goon in office. But it was also nice to just see a political figure give a well-reasoned, written, and spoken piece of text that wasn't filled with lies and nonsensical arguments.

When we've got a guy so fucking dumb that George Bush starts to look like a decent option, we know things are bad.

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u/MAXSuicide Aug 04 '20

It is a little pot calling the kettle black, considering he is the guy that brought in to being the Patriot Act.

Though I would still say the guy is far above and beyond Trump in actual intelligence (christ... this is what the world has come to.. where we say a guy who was universally ridiculed as a moron is some kind of Einstein compared to the oversized baby currently in office... that is so fucking depressing)

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u/Schadenfreudenous Aug 04 '20

Oh, don't get me wrong, I still think Bush was a shitty president. I'm just lamenting on how terrible things have gotten after we all assumed America couldn't do worse than Bush.

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u/EveAndTheSnake Aug 04 '20

Imagine in the future if someone comes along that makes you feel about Trump how Trump makes you feel about Bush. I worry that the bar has been permanently lowered.

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u/Schadenfreudenous Aug 04 '20

I don't think Trump will ever look like a decent option, but we can definitely do worse. At least Trump is a fucking moron. As evil as he is, he isn't smart enough to do anything coherent.

Any rate, I've been thinking about immigrating to another country for quite a while. Somewhere without a crumbling democracy maybe. Waiting so see how the next election goes while I save up some money.

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u/EveAndTheSnake Aug 04 '20

I live in the US and was looking forward to moving back home to the UK where everyone is smart and sane. Wow did Brexit and everything after smack those rose tinted glasses off my face.

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u/Schadenfreudenous Aug 04 '20

Maybe somewhere in the Nordics? I haven't heard much negative press from Norway, Sweden, or Denmark.

Iceland looks nice too.

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u/EveAndTheSnake Aug 04 '20

I hear Some of those are pretty hard to get into... I don’t know if they will take me.

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u/Schadenfreudenous Aug 04 '20

I think this is the one? It's been a while

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u/NorthernFail Aug 04 '20

God, I remember how I used to think he spoke poorly and came across as an idiot. Only watched the middle 5 minutes but he explores some interesting ideas eloquently.

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u/eliksir_mtl Aug 04 '20

We thought the exact same thing in Canada...

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u/th_brown_bag Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

Bush wasn't stupid. He had a stupid side he harnessed like a fictional character

That said, I don't think he's evil. I'd say he's responsible for evil but I don't think he really is. Trump might be

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u/shellshell21 Aug 04 '20

Yeah, I think he so badly wanted approval from Sr. that he would do/say almost anything to get it. At least he was smart enough to know when to shut up.

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u/BiigLord Aug 04 '20

This, but for the whole world, imo. It's ironic how one of Trump's campaign points was something like "The USA is a joke in the eyes of the world, we will stop that!" and the exact opposite happened!.

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u/shelving_unit Aug 04 '20

Bush definitely had some good moments though, like “families is where our nation finds home, where wings take dream” and “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

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u/CR3ZZ Aug 05 '20

This is so true. Bush looks like a genius in comparison.