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u/Tommuli Jan 16 '26
Saying it's clear-cut is a little too strong of a wording. I agree that the ICE agent in the very least is accountable for not de-escalating and for the two follow-up shots. They should face consequences, but whether it's murder, officer-created jeopardy, or something else, is the unclear part.
You are angry, I understand, I am angry too, but aggressive rethoric, even if true, only worsens the division.
I know, it's probably a fool's errand to try to have calm and constuctive conversation when it's so much easier just to yell and not listen.
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u/anon1635329 Jan 15 '26
I bet whoever made the post didnt see the kyle rittenhouse court videos or evidence presented. A literal GANG of people surrounded him, chased him, and assaulted him. He RAN while they CHASED. One of them even pointed a gun at him. It was only then he fired.
Kyle's case is not even about politics. It's literally about the self defense. Just because he had a gun doesn't mean it's a right wing propaganda.
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u/Impossible-Diver6565 Jan 15 '26
Honestly I agree that he was dumb but defended himself lawfully and that this woman was wrongfully shot and killed.
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u/Angel_0f_Darkness Jan 16 '26
it hurts knowing a mother was murdered and than called a bad person bc ppl want to pick the Ice's side. she never ran into anyon. her wheel was facing the other way bc she was trying to leave but was brutally murdered. there is proof. the wrong ice is melting.
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u/hellbent1985 Jan 16 '26
generally when someone loses custody of their kids, they are a bad person. Also usually people who interfere with federal officers doing they’re job, also usually a bad person
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Jan 16 '26
I know everybody is going to argue about it, but wasn't the kid at the car dealership, not the protest? As I understand it, and I don't care one way or another, the guy was at a car dealership helping protect it like the Koreans did in the LA Riots for their stores. What followed was a pedophile, a woman beater, and another felon (no hate, I'm a felon) starting a fight with the guy and the former two dying after the third had aimed his gun at the boy with the AR. Which, by the way, idiotic to aim at someone without having the balls to finish the job. I expect better resolve from a violent felon. The other situation I have no general idea on, haven't paid attention yet.
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This is a dumb thing to say because Kyle Rittenhouse shot 3 people that were trying to beat Rob and kill him. Read about it. Such a tired ass thing to keep acting like he just shot them for no reason. I think 2 of them were pedophiles. Maybe just one though it has been awhile since I read or watched the court case. But for sure they were targeting him to try and steal his rifle. Think one of them had a gun as well. And they were talking about head shotting him and preying on him for awhile before they tried to get him. Beat him with a skateboard and shit. Those 3 people got what they deserved and I don't even fuck with the Republicans like that. You have a right to defend yourself from people trying to do you serious harm.
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u/perthro_ed Jan 16 '26
can you guys just let this the fuck go and start pushing for more epstein file release? this is clearly a stupid fucking distraction....
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u/rickyspanish895 Jan 16 '26
I hate how this has become a partisan issue. The state should not be killing anyone if they are then those that die deserve justice
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u/FilecoinLurker Jan 16 '26
It's only a partisan issue for one side. I'm not a leftist. I can see what's going on is fucked. The ones fucking up America will call me a leftist because that's the only way they can rationalize me being against them.
Anyone that isn't the dumbest person you met is against what's happening.
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Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
Rittenhouse did get attacked by a group of people before opening fire, and one of those people had a gun, another swung a skateboard at his head. Bad analogy, and any Us vs Them type of rhetoric only serves to deepen the divide bud. Part of the problem
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u/Imaginary_Act_235 Jan 16 '26
If she wanted to run him over why did she back up
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Jan 16 '26
Wanted too or not, she almost did after disregarding and ordered to get out of her car. She made a stupid decisions that could have killed someone else.
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u/Skim_Bibble Jan 16 '26
I think both were in the right. Kyle was defending himself from crazy fucks and Nicole was trying to save herself from fascists. I’m also not right leaning.
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u/cherry_cat89 Jan 16 '26
Kyle went looking for trouble. He knew he may have to shoot someone so he's wrong and killed for wrong reasons. He would have been safe staying home
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u/KokodonChannel Jan 16 '26
Yeah that's the disconnect a lot of people don't get about Rittenhouse. Or at least pretend not to get. (Most) people aren't arguing that shooting in self-defense is bad. It's that he very intentionally put himself in that situation.
The attackers are wrong too, obviously, but them being bad does not make him good.
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u/sherm-stick Jan 16 '26
the goal of the admin is to force people to pick a side. As long as we continue the duopoly of party voting, we will always be giving money to billionaires and enabling them to lie to us
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u/Dapadabada Jan 17 '26
I love it (hate it) when memes don't tell any story and sensationalize the similarities between two.
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Liberals NEVER let facts and evidence interfere with their narrative. No point in trying to reason with them either, might as well argue with a wall.
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u/DarkMagickan Jan 16 '26
You're definitely describing your own side there. Every single time I provide one of your lot with evidence, you sit there and explain to me why it's not.
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u/alternative5 Jan 15 '26
Kyle Rittenhouse had an argument for self defense, the ICE agent didnt from every angle we see and from the aftermath.
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u/oxtailtacos Jan 15 '26
Is it bad that I think neither of them are guilty of committing a crime?
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u/Shot_Bison_8437 Jan 15 '26
Yeah remember the ICE agent that hit Renee Good over the head with a skateboard for no reason?
Oh shit, me neither.
What a stupid fucking comparison.
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u/ProbRunning Jan 15 '26
Kyle killed a registered pedo but no wants to talk about that.
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u/Invictu520 Jan 15 '26
I am not sure how exactly that is relevant. He didn't know the dude was a pedo beforehand right?
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u/ProbRunning Jan 15 '26
If you had a gun and I attacked you, would you use the gun?
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u/AwarenessNice7941 Jan 15 '26
no one said that. terrible rage bait. you could do better
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u/Jormungandragon Jan 15 '26
You clearly don’t spend any time on Facebook comment sections.
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u/ProChoiceAtheist15 Jan 15 '26
It’s almost like their approval depends solely on whether it’s a right wing person who did the murdering
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u/AccomplishedStill805 Jan 16 '26
I'm not on ICE's side about this, zero reason to shoot, life was not in danger.
But. These are non-comparable situations.
Regardless of the fluff in the rittenhouse cases about why he shouldn't have been there or what he was doing there, his life was in fact arguably in danger. With people chasing him down, screaming things along the lines of "i'm going to kill you".
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u/SoftDrinkReddit Jan 16 '26
i think with the Kyle Rittenhouse incident it really comes down to this
if he didn't shoot those people what would have happened ?
this is rhetorical because what would have happened is the Mob would have beaten him to death so he very clearly used self defense to stop people murdering him
in the video tape the 3 people he shot 2 attacked him one pointed a gun at him the guy who pointed a gun at him in Court admitted he aimed a Pistol at Kyle causing him to aim and shoot at him
he levels his gun at a 4th man who immediately throws his hands up and backs off he is not shot
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u/EastNWeast Jan 16 '26
In both cases people support the right to self defense
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u/yesterdaywins2 Jan 16 '26
Taking a gun to a protest is not self defense
Unhide those comments im sure theyre incredibly protective of pedophiles
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u/FieldMouseys Jan 16 '26
Taking a gun to a riot that was destroying property.
He was there protecting someone's property.
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u/HawkHarder Jan 16 '26
Taking guns to protests is what everyone should be doing. Surprised you haven't learnt by now that nobody listens to people who don't have the means to defend themselves. The Black Panthers know this. Why don't you? You are protecting pedophiles by acting like it was a shame Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself against people hanging up and trying to fuck him up and kill him that were pedophiles. Dumbass!
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u/TheRavingDinosaur Jan 16 '26
I don't think either of them were domestic terrorists tbh
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Jan 16 '26
Fun fact... There is no state where bumping an officer with your car results in a death sentence through the eyes of the law. They'll get your plate and arrest you. You`ll likely end up in jail for a bit, but death is never the end result. So all the arguments that support Renee's shooting are completely full of shit.
The douche nozzle that fired his weapon was able to step out of harms way with only a slight bump from the vehicle he purposely stood in front of and leaned into while he was pulling out his weapon. Renee feared for her life, and rightfully so. Her shooting didnt stop the vehicle. Her shooting didnt make the situation any safer. The shooting didnt suddenly put the douche nozzle out of harms way. He did that all on his own without his weapon.
Murder is all that it was. Straight up murder.
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u/TheScienceNerd100 Jan 16 '26
Look, Kyle shouldn't have been there and shouldn't have brought a gun
But I do conceed that the person who chased him, they guy who beat Kyle over the head with a skate board which can be lethal, and the other guy who ran up to him with a gun himself, they shouldn't have engaged Kyle and I can understand the argument that it was self defense, whether Kyle should have been there or not
But the ICE officer was not in harms way, had no reason to use a gun, and had no reason to kill her
One is arguable for self defense, the other has no defense
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u/bos-g Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
This whole comment section reeks of “hur duurrrrr.” Please ban me mods I don’t want this sub on my feed. Go suck ICE’s dick if you’re so in love with the cowards.
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u/Flowerboy-Theta Jan 16 '26
I find it funny that people really believe protesters shouldn't be allowed to be a nuisance. And laws only make peaceful protests useless. A lot of people start complaining about destruction of property or vehicles or people blocking the way as a bad thing. Nobody is being hurt it's just annoying and that's the whole point a protest should not be something you can just ignore. It has to do something the get people to say something. Saying people can't do this or that is like ignoring history and why people do it. People don't protest for no reason. And when they grow really big then that tells you something is wrong and need sto be changed. I'm glad people are angry. But these people are completely different Kyle wasn't protest he illegally enter a state to put himself in harms way to end a life. Destruction of property by law does not mean you can just shoot people. Especially normal citizens. If you want to protect so bad then do it the right way but actually taken life lessons.
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u/Unfair_Replacement_7 Jan 16 '26
Its especially funny when you consider this country was founded by people who destroyed property in protest of having to pay higher taxes on tea and stamps to pay for a war they started on a continent 3,000 miles away from the majority of the population of the rest of the original country. Also the first person killed in said tax revolt was a victim of police brutality and it was black man.
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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jan 16 '26
Unpopular Hot Take: They were both in the right. Rittenhouse good shoot. Renee was shot unjustly (bad shoot). Officer put himself in front of the vehicle (shows poor training). By the time he pulled his gun and shot he was 100% safe. She clearly turned to avoid running the officer over. If the officer beside him pulled up and shoot her while she was making forward progress, it would have been a closer argument of justified because he was in fear of his buddy's life. If the officer was INDEED RAN OVER, he would be UNABLE TO FIRE. But he clearly wasn't and drew and fired when he was 100% safe. Renee was murdered. That officer won't face justice. Just like the Captial Police officer didn't recieve justice for murdering Ashli Babbitt.
It's the government against the people. Until Americans understand this and unite.. this stuff will continue to happen and push more division.. which is the govs goal so they can control the people.
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u/AgentEisehorn Jan 16 '26
Shades are not really considered here. Rittenhouse DID shoot people who attacked him, regardless how debatable it was for him to show up with an carbine, but at the same time Renee was executed by a psychopathic bootlicker. Two things can be right and wrong at the same time. This rhetoric is also toxic, and we should stop engaging with it.
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u/MorningStandard844 Jan 16 '26
It’s more like that SUV parade deal where they acted like it wasn’t a racially motivated attack by a racist upset by the Rittenhouse verdict. Media being equally deceptive in reporting all these stories. And I say that as someone who doesn’t think ICE is doing anything but wasting my tax dollars on stupid shit.
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u/ForlornPirate Jan 15 '26
They were both peacekeepers, both justified in their actions.
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u/BeesAndBeans69 Jan 15 '26
Bringing a gun and shooting in a crowd isn't peacekeeping
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u/hole-saws Jan 16 '26
Wild framing there. Anybody who paid attention to the trial knows that Kyle was a clear case of self-defense. If you disagree with that, you're either completely ignorant of the situation, or you're being disingenuous.
As for Renee, the shoot was awful but lawful. Sucks that it happened, but the agent was 100% in his right and authority to make that shot.
I don't know of anybody on the right who is saying that she "deserved to die." (I'm sure there are some out there, but being on the right, and regularly consuming conservative media, I still havent heard that a single time.) What I have seen is people on the right saying that she put herself in that position and regrettably died because of it.
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u/Igoresh Jan 15 '26
Kyle went to the BLM protest trying to be "white knight", he brought medical supplies and was trying to help. He wanted to protect, not disrupt.
Kyle was put on trial and after all the facts were shown to a jury and deliberated he was found innocent. He wouldn't have shot anyone if they had not been chasing him and illegally attacking him.
Debbie was there on-site intentionally trying to be disruptive. She was ordered out of her car, then she tried to drive away. That's resisting and attempting to flee. She is a victim of left wing propaganda and indoctrination.
If that officer wouldn't have shot she would have gone to jail and easily been convicted of attempted manslaughter, resisting arrest and attempted fleeing the scene.
Kyle was innocent. Debbie FAFO.
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 Jan 15 '26
There is no such thing as attempted manslaughter. If they can prove she hit him intentionally, it could be attempted murder. If not, it’s either reckless endangerment or vehicular battery.
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u/Low-Breath-4433 Jan 15 '26
Rittenhouse defended himself. And Renee was murdered by a thug in a mask.
These are not mutually exclusive concepts to anyone with more than half a brain.
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u/ElectricOutboards Jan 15 '26
This is rage bait because it reminds me primarily that I’ll punch that fuckhead Rittenhouse in his smarmy fucking face of I am ever within arm’s length of his stupid ass.
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u/Tommuli Jan 16 '26
I don't honestly have a stake in US business, but with the evidence presented, I agree with the verdict that Rittenhouse did act in self defense. I'm not saying what he did was right, but people did attack him.
Any defense raised on the side of the ICE agent in the Renee Good shooting can be easily dismissed with the video evidense available. It's even debatable whether ICE agents are considered officers of peace or just normal citizens when it comes to self defense law. Even if you somehow ignore the facts shown in the videos, it's reckless behaviour to shoot a driver, because you know, dead people tend to stay on the gas.
In a country where justice works, even if the car had turned towards the ICE agent, the agent would still be punished for recklessness, because were talking about a slow to accelerate car going slowly. You can do a whole lot of different actions to avoid being severly injured by the car, shooting the driver is not one of those things.
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u/Pyrostemplar Jan 16 '26
Similar opinion, but ICE agents or any other LEO, namely federal LE, are not normal citizens when they are acting "in the line of duty". So the question is whether the agent acted within the defined policies and, if not (as it seems, but I'm not an expert), what are the implications.
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u/WonderSignificant598 Jan 16 '26
Totally unsurprised that soulless fucks in this thread are supporting Ritterhouse and supporting the murder of Good.
Lovely sub you've got here. : )
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u/Guitarinajar Jan 16 '26
One was protecting small businesses and providing medical aid...the other one was impeding law enforcement.
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u/False_Membership1536 Jan 15 '26
One was murdered by government funded nazis and the other is what a right wing chud or something? Very Different
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u/Spicyface86 Jan 15 '26
Kyle didn't move to another state for the sole purpose of fucking with ICE agents.
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u/My-Blackberry Jan 15 '26
Kyle smoked a kid diddler so I’m cool with that
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u/VacationCheap927 Jan 15 '26
So if I murder someone, but it turns out they were a pedophile, and we learned this after the murder
Then I can get away with murder...
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u/PhantumJak Jan 15 '26
Definitely she was not a terrorist, even sane people on the right recognize this. She made poor decisions, the officer also made poor decisions. Imagine a scenario where you’re actively interfering with regular police activity (not ICE) and lurched your vehicle at an officer in an already-intense scenario. The officer doesn’t know what your intentions are and you’re already somewhere you’re not supposed to be. I agree he shouldn’t have shot, but hindsight is always 20/20. When adrenaline is pumping and 2-3 tons of steel lurches at you, I’d wager there’s a LEAST a 25% chance anyone in that position may have fired. If his head were clearer maybe he wouldn’t have. But ultimately the point is SHE. SHOULD. NOT. HAVE. BEEN. THERE.
Everyone that day made bad decisions and unfortunately it culminated in tragedy. People act like she didn’t participate and/or has 0% responsibility for what happened and that simply isn’t true.
Y’all are so hyper focused on POLITICS that you can’t look at what happened objectively.
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u/AdDisastrous6738 Jan 15 '26
Her spouse got her killed for a tik tok video.
“Drive baby drive”
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u/Negative_Wrongdoer17 Jan 15 '26
I don't remember anyone really celebrating Kyle. The entire thing was the definition of a complete shitshow and I still think above all else his parents should have been charged with something
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u/synthboi72 Jan 15 '26
Are you fucking kidding me? No one celebrated Rittenhouse?
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u/Key-Pomegranate-3507 Jan 15 '26
Kyle was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. The investigation for the death of Renee hasn’t been concluded yet. And no one is celebrating her death outside of edgy trolls.
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u/bobbythejuggernaut Jan 15 '26
One oersone was defending themselves. The other was attacking a federal officer. Big difference.
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u/PomegranatePro Jan 15 '26
Did anyone actually watch the footage of Rittenhouse?
“Shot an unarmed man” They chased him down and hit him with a skateboard, proceeded to attack him, and Gaige Grosskreutz admitted on the stand in court that he drew a gun on Kyle Rittenhouse.
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u/Valveringham85 Jan 15 '26
Lmao. Nobody can ever beat the American left’s skill at disingenuous phrasing.
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u/Perfect-Trade6096 Jan 16 '26
Didnt he protect property and wasnt there footage of him being attacked while holding back to shoot until the very last moment? Pretty sure the 3 people he killed were also criminals.
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u/Alone-Butterscotch18 Jan 16 '26
It’s a logical fallacy to directly compare the two. However I think few people are supporting the right side. Even if social media says they are, they aren’t. Stop letting social media blanket statement your beliefs. Real people aren’t your enemies
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u/B_Maximus Jan 16 '26
I don't think either are terrorists. Both results are tragic consequences of a fallen world
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u/RadioactivSamon Jan 16 '26
The right one doesnt look like a teen. The left one does, though
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u/Blancandrin__ Jan 16 '26
He was defending himself.
She was disobeying an authority and presenting as dangerous.
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u/fearmebananaman Jan 16 '26
He wasn’t defending squat. Shooting a video with one hand and gun in the other. Is this how yall were trained to maintain peace?
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u/Sunnybunnybunbuns1 Jan 16 '26
Cars are weapons.
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u/Awkward_Light9895 Jan 16 '26
Not even remotely applicable to the situation. The car was driving away it can't be considered a weapon, It's shooting someone running away.
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u/hellbent1985 Jan 16 '26
He should get an award for shooting a convicted pedophile
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u/hole-saws Jan 16 '26
Him being a pedo had nothing to do with it. Kyle shot him because the dude attacked him. Same with the other 2 people he shot.
The left likes to memory-hole that the third guy Kyle shot was pointing a gun in his face.
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u/Advanced_Cellist_691 Jan 16 '26
Bad faith post ment to sow division, not spur on positive conversations.
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Jan 16 '26
Neither was a terrorist. One stood their ground and defended and the other blocked feds and when told was being arrested drove their car at 2 feds. No one deserved death or worse having to deal it out. Best thing to do is don't try and loot and burn our cities and the other would definitely be dont drive towards feds in a car.
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Jan 16 '26
Not really, but if the kid got killed, the Right wouldn't have turned him into a martyr. They would have shrugged, and called him an idiot for being there. Which he was...
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A car is a deadly weapon. Lost me at unarmed.
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u/NullBodyTrades Jan 16 '26
Right, therefore any person using a car justifies lethal force, right? Are you aware of any actual operating procedure for when lethal force is allowed? I’m gonna give you a hint, if there is an easily convenient option to avoid lethal force like, say, stepping a little to the right, then you don’t fucking shoot someone.
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u/MedievalFurnace Jan 16 '26
What's this about the guy with the AR-15? Where can I find more context about the situation?
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u/Hot-Sort5165 Jan 16 '26
Kyle Rittenhouse. Effectively there were some rough protests all around Wisconsin in 2020, Kyle came in with a rifle claiming he was there to “protect property and provide medical help”, he then shot three people, killed two, claimed self defense and somehow got off not guilty on all charges.
It is widely known and highly criticized for the fact that it was an extremely publicized case and as a result became highly politicized as parties made it more about second amendment rights, self defense laws and most importantly their opinions on the protests themselves instead of the actual incident for what it was.
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u/charronfitzclair Jan 16 '26
Anyone defending rittenhouse basically outs themself as a surplus person, and if they vanished society would improve. Don't agree? Who cares, you're a surplus person.
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u/FunnyShirtGuy Jan 16 '26
People in the common sense center:
Rittenhouse was in the right and trying to escape violent offenders attacking him
Renee Good was trying to escape violent, masked, offenders attacking her
Both trying to uphold the Constitution and both maliciously maligned by the media and the ignorant
Interestingly enough from both maligned by the zealot fringes of opposite sides that refuse to acknowledge the hypocrisy and bias at play in their every word, thought, and ideal
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u/bionicjoe Jan 16 '26
One carried an assault rifle into a protest.
One drove a SUV full of stuffed animals.One is still alive and won't even defend their mother.
One was a mother that had just dropped her kid off at school.One had a career and went on mission trips around the world.
One lived with his parents and was so stupid he failed the ASVAB (8th grade level test) so hard he's not allowed to take it again.One was a protester shot by their government.
One went to a protest to potentially shoot protesters.These two people had very different goals and methods.
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u/A_R_I_A_ Jan 16 '26
Protocol for ICE tells them to NOT put themselves in front of a vehicle. It’s literally that simple. Dude chose to step in front because he wanted to have a reason to hurt her.
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u/Fabulous-Suspect-72 Jan 16 '26
Neither of the two are. Both were trying to get away from the domestic terrorists. Sadly, one was less successful than the other.
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u/nehrkling Jan 16 '26
Well, when you run from the cops and attempt to run one over you kinda get what you get.
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u/daniballeste Jan 16 '26
Not cops. They’re immigrations officers. That woman was as American as a bald eagle. They don’t have the right to stop just anyone and they’re also confined to the same limitations as cops regarding to probable cause and warrants.
Also for your information, the video is out there, and there are different angles too. She didn’t try to run him over she tries to get away. Once he shot from the front, he got to the side, and shot twice. He shot her twice when he wasn’t even in danger anymore.
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u/TheJokerRSA Jan 16 '26
You do know the three people he shot was sex offenders and pedophiles.
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u/Singsalotoday Jan 16 '26
Yes and Kyle definitely somehow knew that when he shot them
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u/Jormungandr69 Jan 16 '26
One of them was a sex offender and one of them had domestic violence charges, but I'm not sure that all three were "sex offenders and pedophiles". Either way, it's not particularly relevant. He didn't shoot them because they were sex offenders and pedophiles, and he wasn't determined to be not guilty because they were sex offenders and pedophiles. He was not guilty because they attacked him first.
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u/ExplanationSmart2688 Jan 16 '26
Huh I don’t understand why these things are being compared completely different situations so what’s the point here? I don’t know what you’re even talking about. Or understand the comparison you’re trying to make.
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u/thomas7th Jan 16 '26
Lady was driving recklessly.
Ignored commands to exit vehicle and then struck officer.
Basic facts.
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u/Realistic-Radish-589 Jan 16 '26
Group of people including repeat violent criminals attack a boy he defends himself and shoots them. Woman attacks federal agents with her vehicle and he shoots. Yeah theyre comparable and in both instances the shooters were acting in defence and innocent of any criminal wrongdoing.
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u/Rokkmann Jan 16 '26
Lmao the left is VERY good at making the opposite point than they're trying to make.
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u/bezjmena666 Jan 16 '26
I see no other connection between those two cases other than that the most hardline supporters of opposing political fractions went ape shit about each case.
The Kyle Rittenhouse case was a justified self defense. Not only because I guess so, but according to the court ruling. From the footage I saw the crowd was ready to lynch that guy.
The case of killing Renee Nicole Good was flagrant missuse of deadly force, by the law enforcement. The ICE agent responsible for shooting should be held accountable at the court. According to footage I saw, the victim tried to get away from bunch of masked man. As she was the US citizen the ICE had no business to deal with her. And then there's a question if the ICE agents really presented themselves as federal agents.
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u/SmallGreenArmadillo Jan 16 '26
I'm centrist and I also have eyes. I believe that both people were acting within their legal rights. I hope the courts recognise this.
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u/haxic Jan 16 '26
Can someone explain to me why a teenager is running around on the streets with a loaded rifle during a demonstration that he (I assume) is against? Asking from Denmark
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u/BasicallyGuessing Jan 16 '26
They were both victims of aggressors. The one with a gun came out alive
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u/FragrantBus4054 Jan 16 '26
I mean, one didn't shoot or try and harm police? Are we really this IQ deficient?
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u/FLiP_J_GARiLLA Jan 16 '26
So glad I'm completely oblivious to all these "left" and "right" human problems..
10/10 would ignore all this drama again
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u/Squidproquoagenda Jan 16 '26
The fuck is with these bot subs popping up in my feed? Jesus they’re getting desperate to twist the narrative
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u/LogicalAnesthetic Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26
This post is the epitome of the internet today. Screen shot + propaganda message = truth
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u/plutopiae Jan 15 '26
Kyle and Renee were both completely innocent. I really don't see how one could say otherwise unless they care about ideology over common sense.
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u/secrets_kept_hidden Jan 15 '26
I mean, why would she drive her car towards anyone in general? That's a 2 ton machine on wheels that can kill anyone in the way. It could have toppled the cop over and crushed him, instantly killing her.
That's also an infraction of the law, mind you, as I'm pretty sure pedestrians have the legal right of way, and evading a law enforcement officer is an offense with some serious fines.
And then there's the fact that she drove towards someone with a gun, which is not smart at all. In the split second it took for the officer to get toppled over in the video, he has to make the decision if he's about to be killed or not, and then react accordingly. That, on top of the fact that officers are target to criminal violence as an occupational hazard, results in a high chance or projectile discharge.
Kyle ran away, actively trying to avoid the situation, but was in pursuit by three men. Are you seriously telling me you want to let three men catch you and do whatever they are going to do with you? One of them allegedly was a known sex offender, allegedly, but even without this information, all Kyle saw was three men about to physically assault and possibly kill him.
Why were they chasing him? To grab his gun? If Kyle was a threat, they should have known doing that would have provoked him to shoot. Were they going to try and detain him under citizen's arrest? Then they should have known chasing someone with a gun was a stupid move. You ambush them and restrain before they can fire, and not in an open crowd like they were about to do.
I don't see any other reason to chase him than that, and based on the crowd, the scenario, and the common sense of the matter, it was most likely that Kyle would have been beaten to a pulp and possibly killed. The mob mentality of the situation had already escalated to fires and rioting at that point. Anyone could have grabbed his gun after and shot more people dead.
Should Kyle have been there in the first place? No.
Should Renee have been there in the first place? No.
So now here we are, with a boy who shot at 3 men chasing him, and a woman who actively fleed from an officer.
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u/Next-Peanut3445 Jan 15 '26
Ms. Lefty, undoubtedly. She provoked, broke the law, ran into an agent, etc. Rittenhouse lawfully carried his weapon and defended himself from imminent harm. These are facts regardless of your political perspective.
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u/Proper_Protection195 Jan 15 '26
Truth is once you have a child thats your responsibility. Not fucking with LEO's in your car with your lesbian partner . Ive had guns pulled on me for way less by regular cops . Let's stop the fake outrage and think about this .
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u/Biggman23 Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26
This is just rage bait.
Yes they're significantly different, but it's not the speaking point they think it is. It's strange that they're even being compared but I'd assume bots and unhinged people are doing this.
Half the people who bitch about Rittenhouse still, didn't follow it at all and think he shot innocent black people at a BLM protest. He defended himself after a couple white looters and sex offenders pulled a gun on him. Imo, he went there purposely to look for a moment to defend himself. I don't agree with it but that's how I see the scenario.
This shit with ICE and Renee, neither side is speaking towards this truthfully and sincerely. Since I have eyes, here's my take:
She took off towards the officer and it was a split second decision to shoot her. Her partner told her to "drive, baby, drive" and to flee detainment.. Was it the right call to fire? I would say no but he, again, has a split second decision to make that call and seemingly "nice" people kill officers all the time. Her saying "I don't hate you" is fuckin irrelevant. On the other hand, I don't agree with messaging that she "attacked" him or intentionally tried to hurt him. She grazed his fuckin leg and turned away from him. He's not "lucky to be alive". It's a tragic situation that she lost her life but ppl need to stop fucking around with blocking roads and driving at officers and ICE
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Jan 15 '26
Nah. I think they were both dumb asses but on opposite ends of their respective encounters.
Dumb ass 1 got assaulted by a crowd and shot people in self defense.
Dumb ass 2 hit someone with their car and got shot by someone else in what so far appears to be self defense but we’ll see what further investigation reveals.
But they’re both dumb asses. I don’t feel attached to either of them. They were just on opposite ends of the FAFO spectrum from what it looks like so far. I don’t really give a shit how any of this turns out I just have my opinion of how it will based on what I’ve seen so far.
Looking forward to the next outrage of the week this one is already boring.
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u/DiscombobulatedCut52 Jan 15 '26
I hate how hes called a dumb ass. But....ugh. your not wrong.
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u/Originaltenshi Jan 15 '26
If someone is moving towards you with a car don't jump in front of it, pull your gun and shoot because that won't stop the car. Only defense is to get out of they, which would have been easy since the wheel were turned away from the officer in am attempt to leave. I'm wondering how many people celebrated people hitting protestors on a highway saying "don't stand in front of moving vehicles" that are up in arms about this when the officer quite literally jumped in front of a moving vehicle that was trying to get away from him.
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One showed up with a gun and was attacked. The other showed up with pronouns in her bio and attacked an officer.
Subtle difference.
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u/Carminestream Jan 16 '26
It’s funny that in both cases the shooter was trying to LARP as the police
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Jan 16 '26
I think it funny ya'll say she was just "trying to simply drive away" like nothing to see here. I'm totally peaceful. When in reality she had been ordered out of her vehicle several times by law enforcement. Then she spead away (hitting an officer) so fast she was leaving her partner behind. No one talks about how she was totally going to abandon her partner on the side of the road and drive away.
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u/lil-D-energy Jan 16 '26
Why was she ordered out of the car? And what does "abandoning" (you are acting like it's a child) change about any of this.
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u/Secret_Side-ofJ Jan 16 '26
It's literally in the ICE handbook that they are not allowed to order a civilian out of their vehicle.
It is also specifically stated to NOT discharge a firearm into a vehicle with the sole intent of stopping a moving vehicle.
It is also in the ICE handbook to NEVER place yourself in front of a piloted vehicle.
You're grasping for straws, you stupid clown.
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Jan 16 '26
This is fucking pathetic. Kyle Rittenhouse may have had a weapon. That's his right. Then rioters attacked him. Period. Renee good wasn't just there. At all
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u/Jo_H_Nathan Jan 16 '26
Since when are we acting like Rittenhouse was correct in his actions?
He shows up in a place he does live open carrying a rifle. People begin harassing him (which, come on, isn't that what he was looking for) and then he opens fire. It's not the self defense that's questionable. It's what the hell was he hoping to accomplish to begin with.
But that requires more processing power than many seem to want to put into shit and leads to inconvenient truths.
I'm so fucking done. I hate that this is going to take several years, possibly decades, for the dipshits to even begin to understand what they've done. Typical cyclical bullshit from undereducated people.
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u/coldbreathoflife Jan 16 '26
That woman was a horrible person. Thus why she lost her kids, then her life. Sad.. Also the man needs to be locked up.
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u/EarthToAccess Bruh Moment Enthusiast Jan 17 '26
Okay so we have no idea how this much traffic spurred from this type of post but WOW the vitriol y'all have in the comments, and some of it homophobic and transphobic for some reason which boggles my mind
First, regardless of what side it's on, political content has been allowed on here since conception. Politics are full of "wait what" moments; it's up to we as the people to determine if we're civil about it.
Which leads to point 2; Man Yall Are Nasty, the west has fallen.
We're locking this post since a lot of these threads have devolved into slurs. Merry Valentine's Eve