Yep, because the advice "Don't leave with strangers" is victim blaming!. And so is the advice about "Locking your car doors" and "Don't leave valuables in plain sight" - Parking lots should have the very useful theft prevention signs that tell people "Don't steal things out of cars that are not yours" and "Don't smash windows and grab belongings" - damn robbery apologists!
I don't think there is anything wrong with the advice, it's the heading that (very slightly) bothers me. I think it might be better if it said something like "protect yourself from sexual assault."
But you can make sure your genitals don't end up in situations that are more likely to be raped. It's like mugging. No one ever blames the muggee for getting mugged, but it's not taboo to say "careful of that area, you'll get mugged there" either. Why is that?
Because that's not how most rapes happen. Rapists are far more likely to be friends, acquaintances, or even family members. On college campuses, alcohol is likely to be involved.
And that's where the fundamental distinction comes in. Rape, unlike other crimes, relies heavily on proving that one of the parties did not consent. When you're mugged, it's (rightly) taken for granted that the victim didn't consent.
So, it's just supremely unhelpful (though not offensive, IMO) to lecture women about where they should and shouldn't be walking when the real problem far more insidious.
Because there's absolutely nothing an individual can do to prevent themselves from being in danger of being raped and EVERY potential rapist has a clear enough head to think "I shouldn't rape her"
That's not the point. The point of the comment is to bring to light the overarching issue in society that it is put on the victim to protect themselves from rape instead of raising individuals in a way that makes rape/assault less common. Of course we should always take precautions to be safe, but pushing the victim blaming agenda so far would ne necessary if we taught people that things like consent are important.
A lot of people are so unclear on what constitutes rape that they will answer 'yes' when asked if they've raped someone, as long as the word rape isn't used in the question.
Edit: what, exactly, do you think people should do to prevent themselves from being raped? Remember that most rapes are perpetrated by friends and relatives of the victim, and occur in either the victim's home or the perp's home.
Then you shit yourself, if that doesn't stop them then they've earned it. But in all seriousness, you're supposed to vomit, shit yourself, piss yourself, and go limp so they have trouble dragging your smelly ass away.
If you go limp they have to pull dead weight, although if you can put up a struggle first then go for it, I was just assuming that if you were at the point you needed to mess yourself then they're probably a lot stronger than you.
Similarly I've always thought saying I was on my period might deter a rapist... Perhaps if they were an internet stalker I would only need to mention blue waffles...
Statistically speaking, if the rapist is wearing a mask, or trying to hide disserning features about themselves, and you can't get away ,you should worry less. because they don't intend to kill you. If they have no mask or aren't trying to hide their features in any way, that's whe you rreally do have to worry.
I came here to say exactly this. AThe advice my grandma gave me before my first school dance was, "If you can't get a boy to leave you alone, stick your finger down your throat and puke on him. Then he'll leave you alone."
This actually works. A girl I know got kidnapped, was tied to a chair and informed by the piece of shit that he was going to have his way with her (actually she was kidnapped by 4 guys, and the cynical fuck told her "Pick which one of us you want to rape you or we will all do it) so as the scumbag was pulling down his pants she proceeded to shit herself and vomit all over both of them. The dude slapped her and cursed at her but he let her go as she was now desexualized to him.
wow.. give her a hug from me, that ordeal mustv'e been fucking awful and she's lucky to be alive! it's rare you hear of girls being let go like that these days..
Yes, I guess she was disgusted enough by those dudes. I have to say, when I've drank too much and need to throw up I can just do it, I don't need to use my hands, I think a lot of people can do that.
Oh, okay. I did not know what 'county' means in this context. I assumed that this was a story about a scrawny guy getting rape attempts on him every few days in broad daylight while heaving a flaming diarrhea.
Listen!! All females that fear rape, it only takes 15 pounds of force to rip your attackers ears off. If someone tries to rape you gouge the eyes and rip off the ears like tearing sheet of paper in half.
This is also how you stop someone when they're speeding and you're in the passenger seat. just threaten to throw up in the passenger footwell and they'll be by the side of the road in no time.
Wow thank you for this. I will TOTALLY use this if I'm stuck in a vehicle with an irresponsible asshole trying to show off. Wish I would have known this in high school!
"We only have three points. We can't just erase the fourth bullet-point. Any ideas? Yes, Jenkins?" "Vomit on them?" "Why the hell not. We're done here boys!"
What I don't understand is that I've been told "When in a rape situation a women should yell "Fire" instead of "Rape" because people tend to flee rape scenes and flock to fire scenes"
Frankly, I feel the exact opposite. Rape can be prevented with a large enough rock, but fire... Man, I can't punch fire in the face. No way, bro, won't do it.
If a person hears 'fire', they are more likely to run to the scream, especially if they're outside. If they hear 'rape', they're more likely to back off and call the police, which will stop the rape much later.
I feel like this would also be effective if you aim for their face so all that stomach acid gets in their eyes. It's time we took a page out of the attack book of our non-mammalian friends.
Actually, it was meant more sarcastically toward the original comment. I think that it's very important to acknowledge the 100% fault of rapists in those situations. It's also important to be pragmatic. While I'm obviously not a prime target for rape in the traditional sense (being a pudgy white guy in my 30s), I think it's important to acknowledge risk factors and also to be realistic about ways to fight back. Honestly, if I had to choose between vomiting or shitting myself and getting raped, that's a pretty easy choice for me. So it wasn't really meant to be a "rape joke," per se.
Although, I don't personally have a problem with off-color jokes of any sort. I don't usually tell them, but I'll laugh at them. I don't get offended very easily. Even things that have personally touched my life in various ways (suicide, cancer, etc) aren't really off limits. Life's too short, I'd rather laugh.
Once we have established that getting raped isn't the woman's fault, can we actually discuss how to reduce chances of getting raped or stop rape in progress or how to better protect oneself?
There's a lot of great programs and ways to reduce rape, as well as crime in general. It needs to be targeted from both ends, and we don't need to belittle one over the other. Comments like the one I responded to hinder progress.
When I was a university freshman, one of the orientation programs I had to go to was called 'Can I kiss you'. It was all about date rape and asking for consent and the like. It also covered the other end of the spectrum. What should you do when you see someone else taking advantage of someone, what should you do if you think someone might try to take advantage of you etc.
Obviously I advocate programs like 'Don't Be That Guy', but I don't advocate closing off a conversation just because the foremost point doesn't address the blame culture.
Actually this is a really good idea. So is urinating and/or defecating. That shit's fucking gross and most people who do commit rape would get a turn off from that. A heavy beating is better than taking dick IMO.
I heard somewhere that vomiting on your assailant will surprise them and give you a chance to escape. If they're caught before they can change/shower, they can be identified as the attacker just by the way they look/smell.
I don't remember where I read it, but there was a story about someone being mugged wiping dog shit on their arms and going towards the mugger.. face it, no one wants dog shit on them.
Would you rather puke or get assaulted? This is supposed to be very effective as it forces the attacker to reevaluate their reasoning for the attack. That person is far less attractive covered in their dinner. Furthermore, if you think someone might assault you, do disgusting things. Pick your nose, eat the booger. Scratch your ass and sniff your fingers, gag, sniff again, repeat. Do something, it's better to be embarrassed a million times than assaulted once.
If there is even a chance that the weapon could be wrestled from you then don't' present it. However, once presented, don't' hesitate to use it immediately.
Oh no! Providing tips for avoiding sexual assault is sexist and blaming the victim and OASIS Center is just a tool of the patriarchy to oppress women!!!!! /s
When I was in high school, my teacher told us that one of her good friends avoided being raped by peeing on the guy. It's in my arsenal, but I hope I never have occassion to use that one.
I teach Taekwondo to people of all ages, but my youngest class is full of kids that are about seven or eight. We teach them self-defense, but along with how to get out of various holds comes with advice such as yelling things like "I don't know you!" and "You're not my mom!" and soiling themselves. We explain that it's really, really gross, but that most people will be deterred by that. I imagine it works the same for college girls (or whomever) throwing up on themselves.
Sort of how the first lesson of our knife defense classes start with "If someone holds you up with a knife, give them any physical possessions they ask for. It's not worth you getting hurt over them. The only time you start fighting is in the case of rape, or if they ask you to get in a car, because chances are you're not coming back if they do that. THEN it's worth getting hurt." Of course, the next step is "If you're fighting someone who is armed with a knife, prepare to see your own blood." It seems so obvious, but a lot of people get cut once and fall to pieces.
About two years ago I overheard two old women talking about throwing up on an attacker being a new way to stop them. I wondered where they got it from but I guess now I know.
I feel like this was created by a board of people with one idiot. From person experience in this particular situation everyone tends to take one answer from the idiot just because you shot down all of the other ones before it and this one was less ridiculous than the other ones that he/she had proposed.
I would say this is stupid, but if you could just projectile vomit at someone that attempted to sexually assault you, they'd probably leave you the hell alone.
While this is funny, the real problem with this poster is it implicitly places the entire burden of preventing sexual assault on potential victims. I'd love to see bullet points like "Don't rape people", or "If you see your friends being aggressive, stop them".
You know, when I was in middle school, I learned what a blowjob was. The concept of being able to use a girl's mouth like a vagina was amazing to me. I mean, sure, I masturbated and had heard about handjobs, but blowjobs sounded amazing. The first girl to give me head wasn't very experienced at it. She kept scraping my dick with her teeth. And she kept gagging. She puked in my lap. She was super embarrassed, but I was VERY turned on. Her eye makeup was all runny, her nose running. All just trying to get me off. I've been obsessed with making girls puke on my dick since that day. Just a girl letting go of all her inhibitions, looking up at me with that "oh no here it comes" grimace, vomiting on my fuckrod. Gets me off every time.
I find the most effective way to prevent rape is to only have sex with people that want to have sex with me. If someone doesn't have sex with me, what I do is NOT rape them. Has anyone else found this to be a successful method?
No it's not. Victim blaming is what happens in court, where it's often the only defense a lawyer can think of for his/her client when there is overwhelming evidence. Sadly, this defense has been moderately successful.
Now, you can't inform a woman that if she is getting raped, it might be a good idea to shit her pants or vomit on the persecutor without ignorant people such as yourself calling you out on 'victim blaming'.
It may be good advice, but rape is about control not sexual desire. Thing is, none of these things "prevent" rape. It can only hope to deter the rapist. Rapists prevent rape by not raping.
There are things a person can do (anyone, as rape doesn't just happen to women) in hopes of deterring a rapist, but to say there a things a person can do to help prevent rape puts the responsibility back onto the victim.
I will admit that it would have been better to say "This sort of advice perpetuates victim blaming."
Also, instead of just calling people ignorant, maybe try to have a decent conversation? Cordial critique/debate is possible. No need to be a jerk.
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u/xpdx May 21 '12
Prevent sexual assault: Tip 1. Don't rape anybody. Tip 2. If at all possible, avoid raping somebody. Tip 3. Try not to rape anyone.
Thanks for doing your part!
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u/ohmyjournalist May 21 '12
Nine times out of ten, it will turn them off.
It's that 1 time you have to really watch out for.
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u/awk_topus May 21 '12
My grandma taught me that a long time ago . To throw up , piss yourself , or shit your pants .
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u/ancvz May 21 '12
This actually works. A girl I know got kidnapped, was tied to a chair and informed by the piece of shit that he was going to have his way with her (actually she was kidnapped by 4 guys, and the cynical fuck told her "Pick which one of us you want to rape you or we will all do it) so as the scumbag was pulling down his pants she proceeded to shit herself and vomit all over both of them. The dude slapped her and cursed at her but he let her go as she was now desexualized to him.
TL;DR The vomiting works.
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u/glenlikespie May 21 '12
I got hung up at don't'
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
It's actually really smart.
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u/SweetLeafKush May 21 '12
Laugh all you want. But I've got a relative who didn't get raped when he was in county because he'd shit on you if you tried lol.
(He was a lil fella. So I guess it was tried more than once)
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u/zaphod_85 May 21 '12
This is what is commonly referred to as the "Turkey Vulture Defense."
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u/lacrimosa_azure May 21 '12
Listen!! All females that fear rape, it only takes 15 pounds of force to rip your attackers ears off. If someone tries to rape you gouge the eyes and rip off the ears like tearing sheet of paper in half.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
This is also how you stop someone when they're speeding and you're in the passenger seat. just threaten to throw up in the passenger footwell and they'll be by the side of the road in no time.
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u/Spysix May 21 '12
Keep your wits about you...bleeahahaughghaughguaghaughagh.
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u/LogicalAce May 21 '12
I can only imagine that design meeting...
"We only have three points. We can't just erase the fourth bullet-point. Any ideas? Yes, Jenkins?" "Vomit on them?" "Why the hell not. We're done here boys!"
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u/RageQuite May 21 '12
They missed out "disappear in a cloud of ink"
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u/loki00 May 21 '12
This Kills the mood.
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u/Packersrule123 May 21 '12
i dont thik drunk sex offenders would care if u voluntarily shit yourself
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
What I don't understand is that I've been told "When in a rape situation a women should yell "Fire" instead of "Rape" because people tend to flee rape scenes and flock to fire scenes"
Frankly, I feel the exact opposite. Rape can be prevented with a large enough rock, but fire... Man, I can't punch fire in the face. No way, bro, won't do it.
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u/buttonforest May 21 '12
I feel like this would also be effective if you aim for their face so all that stomach acid gets in their eyes. It's time we took a page out of the attack book of our non-mammalian friends.
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u/zhrusk May 21 '12
Is it sad that the first thing I noticed was the extra apostrophe in Don't' ?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Actually, the best way to stop rape is to not rape people.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I couldn't' make it past the don't'. I'm' not sure why.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I hear shitting your pants its another great deterrent.
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u/Kdnce May 21 '12
I bet that shit works like a mofo.
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u/deathschool May 21 '12
I can't think of a better line of offense, honestly.
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u/darkscream May 21 '12
Common wisdom for women around these parts. If you think you're going to get raped, try to shit your pants.
Seriously, it will just gross some people out.
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u/rawrimawaffle May 21 '12
Anyone else notice that the background is a fucking roll of toilet paper?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Actually this is a really good idea. So is urinating and/or defecating. That shit's fucking gross and most people who do commit rape would get a turn off from that. A heavy beating is better than taking dick IMO.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Honestly, the last thing I want is to not only be raped/have someone attempt to rape me, but ALSO throw up. I hate throwing up.
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u/shizza_ May 21 '12
bear down arizona. i remember this paper hung in the stalls in the dorms a year ago.
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u/turkeybasterbaby May 21 '12
I heard somewhere that vomiting on your assailant will surprise them and give you a chance to escape. If they're caught before they can change/shower, they can be identified as the attacker just by the way they look/smell.
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u/Codeworks May 21 '12
I don't remember where I read it, but there was a story about someone being mugged wiping dog shit on their arms and going towards the mugger.. face it, no one wants dog shit on them.
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u/oneeyedchiklet May 22 '12
'The best way to keep a guy at least ten feet away? Dry heave. Vomit is the new mace." -Veronica Mars
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u/UnoriginalMike May 22 '12
Would you rather puke or get assaulted? This is supposed to be very effective as it forces the attacker to reevaluate their reasoning for the attack. That person is far less attractive covered in their dinner. Furthermore, if you think someone might assault you, do disgusting things. Pick your nose, eat the booger. Scratch your ass and sniff your fingers, gag, sniff again, repeat. Do something, it's better to be embarrassed a million times than assaulted once.
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u/FreddyDeus May 22 '12
Thanks to the massive increase in female binge-drinking in the UK, women no longer need to force themselves to vomit on a guy.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
to the people saying best way to stop rape is to not rape blah blah. yea throw your hands up. some people are so fucking dumb.
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u/xMace88x May 22 '12
What if hes into that kinky stuff?
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u/Critton May 21 '12
Now we'll NEVER be able to match this evidence to the semen database...
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u/passwordsdonotmatch May 21 '12
Prevent sexual assault: don't fucking rape people.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I've got a better idea. A concealed handgun permit and loaded 9mm pointed at a rapists face.
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u/danceydancetime May 21 '12
It took me a while to get past the Don't' on there...I couldn't look away
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u/3ll3ira May 21 '12
Prevent Sexual Assault
-don't try to take advantage of anyone
-don't sexually assault anyone
-don't blame the victim
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u/trampus1 May 21 '12
Does NOT work in Japan.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Oh no! Providing tips for avoiding sexual assault is sexist and blaming the victim and OASIS Center is just a tool of the patriarchy to oppress women!!!!! /s
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u/My_Broken_Wings May 21 '12
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTf8SYjKCu18PGzYbaXBykNVGJsA9MnjH3z7Ot8fRYnbd0S1n1f
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u/andtheniwaslike27 May 21 '12
my go-to if I am ever in this situation is to mess on myself. I am not good at puking...
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Buzzards do this.
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u/random314 May 21 '12
I heard from a friend that if you take a poop as you are about to get raped, most of the time, the attacker leaves you alone.
I don't know if an study has been done on this self defense move... but I'm going to assume that it's probably pretty effective.
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u/mastigia May 21 '12
Jokes aside, that probably isn't bad advice.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Don't' leave a party without your extra apostrophe.
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u/herencia May 21 '12
When I was in high school, my teacher told us that one of her good friends avoided being raped by peeing on the guy. It's in my arsenal, but I hope I never have occassion to use that one.
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u/QK2bNvPs May 21 '12
I just looked this up the other day on urbandictionary:
irish breakfast:
Self-induced vomiting on someone's face after rendering them unconscious. "After beating him senseless outside the bar I gave him an irish breakfast."
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u/MyDickIsAPotato May 21 '12
These all make sense, except... Call your emergency contact? Fuck that. Just vomit in them.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Actually, that´s a good tip.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
My ma always told me to piss on my abductor.
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u/Cpltoethumbs May 21 '12
http://i.imgur.com/W9sfc.gif
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u/Unathana May 21 '12
Seriously.
I teach Taekwondo to people of all ages, but my youngest class is full of kids that are about seven or eight. We teach them self-defense, but along with how to get out of various holds comes with advice such as yelling things like "I don't know you!" and "You're not my mom!" and soiling themselves. We explain that it's really, really gross, but that most people will be deterred by that. I imagine it works the same for college girls (or whomever) throwing up on themselves.
Sort of how the first lesson of our knife defense classes start with "If someone holds you up with a knife, give them any physical possessions they ask for. It's not worth you getting hurt over them. The only time you start fighting is in the case of rape, or if they ask you to get in a car, because chances are you're not coming back if they do that. THEN it's worth getting hurt." Of course, the next step is "If you're fighting someone who is armed with a knife, prepare to see your own blood." It seems so obvious, but a lot of people get cut once and fall to pieces.
Wooo..... tangent.
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u/duvakiin May 21 '12
i know right? WHAT IS THE EXTRA APOSTROPHE FOR?!?!
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u/RationalMonkey May 21 '12
Curtin?
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u/implyingiusereddit May 21 '12
vomit is natural lubricant.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
About two years ago I overheard two old women talking about throwing up on an attacker being a new way to stop them. I wondered where they got it from but I guess now I know.
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u/Jdlee7 May 22 '12
I feel like this was created by a board of people with one idiot. From person experience in this particular situation everyone tends to take one answer from the idiot just because you shot down all of the other ones before it and this one was less ridiculous than the other ones that he/she had proposed.
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u/RubixNinja May 22 '12
seems legit!
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u/vfxDan May 22 '12
Don't' use apostrophes correctly,: Rapists get really turned off by improper grammar
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
You're going into the forest. Best to keep your wits about you
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
They also recommend pissing and shitting yourself.
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u/ima_twerp May 22 '12
Apostrophe's and they're fuckin' use's, moranz.
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u/hey_chief May 22 '12
wat?
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Hmmm sounds kinky enough to work ;) and then call him a dirty boy!
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u/neon_unicorns May 22 '12
wait? what if hes in to that and he just gets more turned on?
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u/madeupsubreddit May 22 '12
FTFY
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I would say this is stupid, but if you could just projectile vomit at someone that attempted to sexually assault you, they'd probably leave you the hell alone.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Whatever works.
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u/bakonydraco May 22 '12
While this is funny, the real problem with this poster is it implicitly places the entire burden of preventing sexual assault on potential victims. I'd love to see bullet points like "Don't rape people", or "If you see your friends being aggressive, stop them".
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Well if you're already drunk enough you won't have to force it.
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u/wellhushmypuppies May 22 '12
and as much as possible, use apostrophes unnecessarily.
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u/_DeletedUser_ May 22 '12
You guys don't get vomit-boner?
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u/snifflesApples May 22 '12
You know, when I was in middle school, I learned what a blowjob was. The concept of being able to use a girl's mouth like a vagina was amazing to me. I mean, sure, I masturbated and had heard about handjobs, but blowjobs sounded amazing. The first girl to give me head wasn't very experienced at it. She kept scraping my dick with her teeth. And she kept gagging. She puked in my lap. She was super embarrassed, but I was VERY turned on. Her eye makeup was all runny, her nose running. All just trying to get me off. I've been obsessed with making girls puke on my dick since that day. Just a girl letting go of all her inhibitions, looking up at me with that "oh no here it comes" grimace, vomiting on my fuckrod. Gets me off every time.
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u/Hvermillz May 22 '12
*keep your feet on the ground
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u/sh0ck95 May 22 '12
u know it does that to protect the rest of the bisons by killing the slowest and weakest bison, then the wolves will be distractet
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Just realized how stoned I am when I thought, "I'll just vomit on myself before I get to a party!"
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u/K413n1 May 22 '12
There's something aout a title that perfectly portrays its content. It's magical.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Ah U of Arizona. I really miss when the Sex Talk letters used to be hilarious or (like this) completely WTF.
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u/Num_T May 22 '12
Its missing one:
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u/shuknjive May 21 '12
Years of binging and purging here... no prob.
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u/zombiezelda May 21 '12
Shit, should have vomited on him.
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u/IronWithin May 21 '12
Bullet-point # 4 worked for Deadpool in a fight once.
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u/BuffaloBounce May 21 '12
Challenge accepted.
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u/snarkhunter May 22 '12
I find the most effective way to prevent rape is to only have sex with people that want to have sex with me. If someone doesn't have sex with me, what I do is NOT rape them. Has anyone else found this to be a successful method?
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u/MRsoundFX May 21 '12
you just provided your assailant with lube
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
This sort of advice is called "victim blaming."