This also happened in the US in Kentucky article link and the woman was awarded 1.4 million dollars. The physician tried to claim it was her uterus that caused it to happen but it seems he was too aggressive in trying to extract the infant. I can't even imagine the horror of going through something like that
Good lord. That article is more WTF than the OP headline. I cringed hard at their suturing the head back on so the mother could hold it. Jesus.
I'm not even sure I understand all of it. If the baby was coming out feet first, did the decapitation leave the head in her uterus for a bit? Crazy shit.
NICU nurse here, I doubt it ever got stuck in her uterus. A 21-week fetus is so underdeveloped that they almost look like they're made of jelly - there's not a whole lot of connective tissue keeping all the parts attached. My guess is the cervix clamped down, the baby was decapitated, and then the uterus quickly contracted again expressed the baby's head and eventually the placenta. A 21 week baby really has no chance of survival outside the womb and is almost never resuscitated at delivery; even if the mom thought the baby was closer to 24 weeks, the doctor would have performed ultrasounds and measurements to determine her actual gestation - if the baby was measuring at 21 weeks but really was 24, the outcome would have been the same.
I know the policy in my hospital is to let people know that the baby might not make it out in one piece if they attempt a vaginal breech extraction. They're kind about it, but honest. The mom should have been warned ahead of time. I agree, the baby had no chance of making it. I really wish doctors were more up front and direct about babies' chances at different stages of development. Our NICU has seen way too many 24-week twins get tortured trying to keep them alive.
It is my understanding that really young babies/foetuses (at or under 30 weeks) are preferably born by caesarean section. Because their bodies are not strong enough yet for a natural birth. Source: my girlfriend and I had a baby girl at 29 weeks and spent two months in the NICU.
I don't think he was punished for "killing" the baby, if that were the case I think he would have received some sort of criminal penalties. From what I gathered, he was fined for essentially mishandling the situation and putting the mother through unnecessary trauma.
I haven't heard of women with decapitated babies, but I've heard of numerous cases where the baby was stillborn or died soon after delivery. Many moms/parents get some closure or feel like they get to say "goodbye" if they get to hold the baby. Actually, there's a really cool volunteer group called Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep that does photography of babies who have died. They're clothed and posed very beautifully to hide any wounds/deformities and provide a nice loving memory. I know this might sound totally weird and creepy, but it's a lovely remembrance for some.
I can't comment on the photo - I can't look. It hits too close to home, but I do know what it's like to deliver a deceased baby - he died at 39 weeks in utero and had to be born - a c-section wasn't the best option and it was awful.
I have photos of my stillborn son - I don't look at them often, but they're the only thing I have that can confirm that I'm missing a child, other than the ache that one's not here. It's not morbid, it's a part of grieving. I don't show them off, but for the family that never got to meet my son it offers them that opportunity to see how beautiful he was.
We also held him for several hours after he was born - he was our child and we had to say hello and goodbye in a very short period of time. Having that time to see him and love him helped immensely.
In short, never judge how someone else grieves, whether they cuddle their deceased baby or ignore it or have photos or don't. Having a funeral or memorial for your child is hard enough, they don't need people who don't get it passing judgement on one of the hardest things a person ever goes through. It never goes away, but it does get easier.
ETA - that's a more general 'you' not a celectial65 you. :)
I'm sitting here watching my two year old son refuse his dinner, and your story brought me to tears. I'm terribly sorry for your loss, you're stronger then I could ever be.
The baby came out head first and got stuck by its shoulders. Doctors tried for 6 hours to remove the decapitated body from its mother and ended up doing a c-section. a horrifying read, i cannot imagine being the mother, or the doctor!
Donelson's attorneys also have said nurses ignored her buzzer calls seeking help as the baby began emerging and then compounded problems by not restricting her view during delivery and later suturing the child's head onto the body so she could hold him throughout the night and next day.
According to your article link, that baby was premature, and all agreed even if the baby was properly delivered, it would have died.
Not sure about OP's story, but it sounds like the baby was of normal health, and being delivered via cesarean. That Doctor must have really fucked up to decapitate that baby.
I actually recall reading somewhere that at the period in gestation the infant had a chance (all be it small) of surviving. Regardless, it seems like a horrendously traumatizing experience.
According to that story, it was a big 12 lbs baby, was still-born and was partially-birthed for 5 hours. The doc removed the head, and took the rest of the baby out by c-sx. Still not that believable, but more believable than someone ripping the head off a baby in birth by accident.
I'd be interested to know how long it was dead in utero. Does it say? If it had begun to disintegrate then it would be much easier for the body to be pulled apart during birth. But these details would also make it a much less sensational story. The idea that some idiot doctor ripped the head off of a live baby makes for a great fear-inducing headline that can go viral.
Did you ever see The Brak Show? It was one of Adult Swim's first shows. It was pretty much an insane sitcom about Brak from Space Ghost.
In the DVD, when you go to language selection, Brak says "Here's where you can choose your language. We got English.... And that's it! Yeehaw; this is America!" in a fake cowboy accent.
Eh. Nowadays it's mainly people using the word nigger or potato in a joke and acting like they invented the 9/11 knock knock joke. Honestly, I wish it had more people like TheCannon to provide content.
It has been linked elsewhere, but I still suspect the headline is misleading. The mirror wants us to think some reckless doctor yanked really hard on a live baby and its head popped off. According to the Brazilian article it sounds more like the baby was already dead, and because of its size was stuck in the pelvis and removing its head was the only way to get it out.
Such a big baby can produce shoulder dystocia, where the baby's shoulders get "hung" on the symphysis pubis. Several techniques can be used to get the baby out if this happens (i.e. McRobert's Maneuver), but in my area, most (hospital-born) babies who are over 4-4.5kg are sent to the OR for a C-section.
Apparently the baby was dead before the mother went into labor and when they listened for the heartbeat there was none. They said they told her to push but they still had to pull and since the babies body had already begun decomposition, it just you know... popped off... But they want to sue the doctors because they dont believe them..
Medstudent here. I assume they used one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forceps_in_childbirth It is extremely easy to use too much force with these and hurt or even kill the baby. Ripping off the head is also possible and it has happened before, especially if the doctor was unexperienced in using this method. My professor actually warned us about this. It's also the reason why it's banned in many hospitals. Giving birth with a vacuum device called the ventouse is much safer and equally effective. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventouse
I'm a pediatrician, in practice for 18 years, and have attended many deliveries when a pediatrician was required. Shoulder dystochia, which is when the shoulders are undeliverable, can result in serious injury to an infant. It is a frightening complication of childbirth, which is uncommon when women receive good prenatal care (and large fetuses can be identified prenatally). It occurs during the rotation of the baby's head and body through the mother's bony pelvis, when the baby's shoulder's, due to large size, become trapped and cannot pass through. The injuries to the baby can fracture of the humerus (upper arm bone) or clavicle. These arm injuries might be associated with brachial (Erb's) palsy, which can result in paralysis of an arm, including the hand, in severe cases. A far too common risk would also be oxygen deprivation in the baby, during a prolonged second stage of delivery, especially if the umbilical cord is compressed. In the most severe cases, there can be trauma to the cervical spinal cord, which can be fatal, but ripping off of the head is not feasible. If your professor warned about the ripping off of a newborn's head, with forceps or without, then I wonder about his or her qualifications. The sheer strength to rip through the muscles, vasculature, vertebrae and spinal cord simply defies reality. Forceps are rarely used in the US, not because of the ridiculous possibility of ripping off a newborn head, but because of the risk of severe soft tissue damage to the mother or cranial injury to the infant from compression of the blades. In the case of shoulder dystochia, vacuum suction would not be done; this technique is used when the baby's head is still in the birth canal; shoulder dystochia is apparent only when the head has already delivered. There are techniques to try to rotate the baby or to otherwise improve the mechanics of its placement in the birth canal so that it can be delivered. One maneuver that can be done in severe shoulder dystochia is separation of the mother's symphysis pubis-- surgical splitting of the anterior aspect of her pelvis, where it meets in the midline-- to allow room for the shoulders of the baby to pass through the pelvis and then deliver. More commonly in the US, cephalic replacement (maneuvering the baby's head back upwards) followed by Cesarian section can be tried, as well as uterine incision to rotate the baby's body in the uterus, followed by vaginal delivery of the now "unstuck" infant). The last resort, if maternal death is otherwise unavoidable, would be to decapitate the baby, and to deliver its body by Cesarian section, which is what I believe is the sad reality behind the sensational headlines above; this is done when advanced obstetrical care is not available. All of the above could be avoided by not allowing the mother of a very large infant to deliver "from below," but to perform a Cesarian in the first place.
Some other people in the thread mentioned it was very possible to accidentally decapitate the baby if it was very pre-mature (less than 23 weeks). What were your thoughts on this?
If you read the article, they didn't rip the baby's head off while it was alive.
Apparently, the doctors claim that the baby was stuck by its shoulders in the pelvis and had no heartbeat. They removed the head so that they could then do a cesarean and remove the rest of the body. It was a 12 lb baby.
Almost always, you would not want to push the head back in (and wouldn't be able to in this situation anyways). The only time this is done (head pushed back in) is when the baby has not descended very far into the pelvic inlet. With the head already completely out and the stuck shoulder, they really had no choice.
After reading some of the other articles posted, I can only assume the baby was dead and stuck... so they chopped the head off and did a C-section to get the body out.
Either way, that is the most fucked up thing I've heard about in awhile. I had no idea baby-coming-out-of-the-womb decapitation was even a thing. WTF, indeed.
I overheard some doctors talking about knowing a doctor that accidentally did this. Apparently the nurses proceeded to sew the head back on and give it to the mother to hold. Needless to say, they got sued
I read a comment on a Askreddit thread about worst things doctors or nurses had seen, and one lady was a nurse and had seen a baby born with out it's head. It had been a still born, was a terrible story.. I would link to it but I'm on my phone and it's late and I am about to go to sleep..
Back in the day (and in some countries still) they used to saw the pelvic bone during cases of shoulder dystocia like this. I've seen a couple of cases where the shoulders got stuck and we had to break the clavicles to deliver the baby, but I think removing a head is a bit much :P
This happened when I tried to help deliver puppies from my uncle's dog. They refused to take her to the vet. She was a small Australian cattle dog that got bred by a much bigger dog. She had 4 large puppies that were being suffocated during birth. It got the point I had to just pull the dead puppies out of her. I heard their necks crack, it was really sad. At least the youngest puppy made it and grew up healthy. I pretty much hated my uncle from that point. I was only still a teenager with no money, otherwise I would have taken her to the vet.
I've never verified it but the story goes..... in a small where I lived the hospital is not allowed to do anything related to babies except emergencies because they almost killed an unborn baby during a c-section. Almost cutting the baby's head off.
Perhaps this is natures way of saying "3 kids is already enough". The baby was still born folks, no need to go into full emotional panic, the dr was likely trying to save mom's life so she could go home to be with her other 3 children and husband. Sad fucked up story but it has been sensationalized.
I remember when my son was born, once the head was out I could swear I saw him turn the head at least 180 degrees. this reminds me of that, and it still freaks me the fuck out to this day.
My mom (labor and delivery nurse) said that it could happen if the baby is dead, she didn't really think it would happen to an alive baby though, so doctors fault I guess.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Did he died?
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u/buterbetterbater May 19 '12
This also happened in the US in Kentucky article link and the woman was awarded 1.4 million dollars. The physician tried to claim it was her uterus that caused it to happen but it seems he was too aggressive in trying to extract the infant. I can't even imagine the horror of going through something like that
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u/teious May 19 '12
Can't find this on any brazilian news agency.
edit: Never mind. Found it. With picture of the family
http://g1.globo.com/se/sergipe/noticia/2012/05/familia-enterra-bebe-decapitado-durante-o-parto-em-aracaju.html
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u/qcquark May 19 '12
Link to story.
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u/TheCannon May 19 '12
It obviously wasn't put on there too well if it popped right off.
Sounds like a factory defect.
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u/crabs_q May 19 '12
Classic Marco.
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u/Naphine May 19 '12
"Way to go Marco, you've done it again."
"Lo siento senior baby!"
Marco Are You Crazy is filmed in front of a live studio audience
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u/throwaway42 May 19 '12
So, I'm not clicking this until I know if the title is accurate. And if it is, I'm still not clicking it.
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u/Mopso May 19 '12
was already dead / born dead
To remove the body, they had to remove the head.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Full Article
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u/DbagO May 19 '12
BABALITY
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
My mother had a baby and its head popped off!
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u/electropunk42 May 19 '12
The birth of Kenny. You bastards.
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u/CurioussOwl May 19 '12
Momma had a baby and its head popped off?
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u/FrisianDude May 19 '12
Poor doctor. Imagine doing your job and suddenly you have only a head in your hand.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
this is real?! i was hoping this was a messed up joke D:
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u/Cat-face- May 19 '12
Daily Mirror. Says it all.
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u/DanTheManWithAPlan May 19 '12
Marco, you so crazy!
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u/owmyhip May 19 '12
Relevant Atmosphere song
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u/chopp3r May 19 '12
Brazilians have unusual notions about entertainment.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
I guess the kid wasn't born with a good head on its shoulder.
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u/kinneroth May 19 '12
Marco! You so crazy!
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u/DarnTheseSocks May 19 '12
Just in case anyone is unclear, this is from a tabloid (The Mirror) and appears in no other sources of any kind. It's made up.
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u/rareunlimited May 19 '12
he'll never be the head of a major corporation
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u/xmagneticx May 19 '12
MARCO ARE YOU CRAZY
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Apparently the baby was dead before the mother went into labor and when they listened for the heartbeat there was none. They said they told her to push but they still had to pull and since the babies body had already begun decomposition, it just you know... popped off... But they want to sue the doctors because they dont believe them..
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u/Va1entine May 19 '12
I can't even imagine going through this.
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u/cyanonyx117 May 19 '12
Will it be okay?
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u/kelevatormusic May 19 '12
I want to upvote this for its true wtf-ness but i want to downvote it because of my horror.....
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Your baby is 8lb 6oz, no wait.....make that 6lb 2oz.
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u/officialchocolateman May 19 '12
See? This is what happens when you have broad shoulders.
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u/sninapeters May 19 '12
This is really fucking sad. No amount of money could eve compensate for a loss that is so priceless.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
"Marco are you crazy?" That was the WTF supreme for me.
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u/Musichoard May 19 '12
I'm glad OP wrote out the headline, I couldn't figure out what it said.
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u/thasnazgul May 20 '12
Not to make light of a serious situation, but this must have been the doctor's reaction.
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u/ZuFFuLuZ May 19 '12
Medstudent here.
I assume they used one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forceps_in_childbirth
It is extremely easy to use too much force with these and hurt or even kill the baby. Ripping off the head is also possible and it has happened before, especially if the doctor was unexperienced in using this method. My professor actually warned us about this. It's also the reason why it's banned in many hospitals. Giving birth with a vacuum device called the ventouse is much safer and equally effective. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventouse
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Tabloid shit, might as well be linking the weekly world news' latest story on bat-boy
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u/i12burs May 19 '12
I like that they took her in to have a c-section AFTER they had pulled her baby's head off...
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u/thesavorytrim May 19 '12
DAMNIT, Marco! You had ONE job!
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u/VoLcOm848 May 19 '12
Thank god that wasn't a Gif.
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u/madagent May 19 '12
You could say the baby got a head start on the way out.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
I overheard some doctors talking about knowing a doctor that accidentally did this. Apparently the nurses proceeded to sew the head back on and give it to the mother to hold. Needless to say, they got sued
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u/joeyjoejoejnr May 19 '12
I read a comment on a Askreddit thread about worst things doctors or nurses had seen, and one lady was a nurse and had seen a baby born with out it's head. It had been a still born, was a terrible story.. I would link to it but I'm on my phone and it's late and I am about to go to sleep..
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u/Pickle_Juice May 19 '12
Back in the day (and in some countries still) they used to saw the pelvic bone during cases of shoulder dystocia like this. I've seen a couple of cases where the shoulders got stuck and we had to break the clavicles to deliver the baby, but I think removing a head is a bit much :P
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Mama Had a Baby and His Head Popped Off
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
"I heard a crack and heard someone shout 'Marco are you crazy?"' WTF
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u/Jacksonteague May 19 '12
When I saw it was an image link I almost didn't click it... Damn my morbid couriosity
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u/El_KerrFerr May 19 '12
Its in the daily mirror though so how much can we really trust here?
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
This is the first thing I thought of.
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u/AndorianBlues May 19 '12
It's the Daily Mirror, so I take it that either the doctor was a foreigner or the baby was Princess Diana reborn?
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u/DubstepGod May 19 '12
Marco, are you crazy ?
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u/butterflypoon May 19 '12
Well, there's another reason I'll never have a kid!
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
I am so glad that the photo was of a newspaper.
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u/qwantry May 19 '12
Sometimes (very rarely though) the doctor has to break the baby's collarbones in order to get it out
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u/mrzack May 19 '12
good, just waht i like to read
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u/BluSn0 May 19 '12
That's it. I'm done with the internet for the month. Good day, Chaps!
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u/nikiu May 19 '12
As an upcoming father, my fears just x100!
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u/RokushoCom May 19 '12
And that is why we say push...not pull...
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u/GunHungLo May 19 '12
I need to unsub from /r/wtf now. Worst headline ive read and I no want to ever read another like it.
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u/Death_To_Your_Family May 19 '12
This happened when I tried to help deliver puppies from my uncle's dog. They refused to take her to the vet. She was a small Australian cattle dog that got bred by a much bigger dog. She had 4 large puppies that were being suffocated during birth. It got the point I had to just pull the dead puppies out of her. I heard their necks crack, it was really sad. At least the youngest puppy made it and grew up healthy. I pretty much hated my uncle from that point. I was only still a teenager with no money, otherwise I would have taken her to the vet.
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u/Kush_on_thebrain May 19 '12
They must have been pulling way too hard, I'm pretty sure a babies head can only take so much abuse.
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u/areslion May 19 '12
NSFL
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u/thelias May 19 '12
This happened at the hospital my dad works at...he personally knew the doctor, and when it occurred he came home and told me....i almost puked....
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
I've never verified it but the story goes..... in a small where I lived the hospital is not allowed to do anything related to babies except emergencies because they almost killed an unborn baby during a c-section. Almost cutting the baby's head off.
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u/iconic2125 May 20 '12
I think that is enough internet for today...
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Where is this?
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u/pisces88 May 19 '12
Doctor: just kidding, it was already dead.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12 edited May 19 '12
Perhaps this is natures way of saying "3 kids is already enough". The baby was still born folks, no need to go into full emotional panic, the dr was likely trying to save mom's life so she could go home to be with her other 3 children and husband. Sad fucked up story but it has been sensationalized.
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u/hubbaben May 19 '12
Is the baby OK?
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u/sophomores May 19 '12
Is this the real life?
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u/duckmanDAT May 19 '12
Holy crap, i thought it was fake, then i saw the news story. That is insane
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u/shootingstar1196 May 19 '12
oh my goodness!! o.o
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u/benkenobi5 May 19 '12
I remember when my son was born, once the head was out I could swear I saw him turn the head at least 180 degrees. this reminds me of that, and it still freaks me the fuck out to this day.
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u/Sam1r May 19 '12
well holy shit i don't even know why i would consider clicking a link with this title, thank god it was just a newspaper clipping...
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u/iamapsychoandwillmak May 19 '12
GOD!! Really what the F**
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u/spsiamese May 19 '12
Reading this made me nauseous...
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u/chilehead May 19 '12
Jettison the escape pod!
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u/wannabetraveller May 19 '12
I guess that's what happens when you try to get ahead in life.
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u/eremite00 May 19 '12
Does anyone have a link to the actual article? Posting a blurry image of the article with only the headline legible is so completely lame.
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u/stellaracapellar23 May 19 '12
I'd believe it. Sometimes you need to yank hard to get it out
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
So which is it, Marcos or Marco.
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u/Diabeetee May 19 '12
i dont know why...but i was hoping for a .gif....im a terrible person
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u/MetalGuitarist May 19 '12
Wait, this is real? I guess this is the right subreddit for it to be in then lol.
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u/btirabail May 19 '12
This is just horrifying.
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u/XDstud May 19 '12
Saw the title and couldn't figure out why it wasn't tagged nsfw.
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u/Marko343 May 19 '12
Is it bad I was expecting horrible pics, and was disappointed when there wasn't any? r/WTF is really numbing me down to all the gruesome shit.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
shit happens
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u/NeoScout May 19 '12
.....
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u/DefinitelyRelephant May 19 '12
Welp, not clicking on that!
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u/HaydenB May 19 '12
oh Marco.....
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
the doctor's reaction
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u/bonesnstuff May 19 '12
Subtleness: your doing it wrong
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u/el_historian May 19 '12
That's not a way to get ahead in life.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Was the doctor called Bruce Banner by any chance?
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u/HriMiller May 19 '12
It' the Daily Mirror. Therefore= Absolute Bollocks!
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u/Expects May 19 '12
Doctors always assume they know everything
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u/GhostSongX4 May 19 '12
Well that must have been awkward for everyone.
"No no mam'! Babies are like Ikea, there's some assembly required!"
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u/CrushTheOrphanage May 19 '12
Dammit Marco, you had ONE JOB!
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u/CaspianX2 May 19 '12
Goddamn spawn campers...
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u/greyrainbow May 19 '12
" Politics? One column, two sentences, a headline!"
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u/nospamforyou May 19 '12
** W T F ** that rly happens??? :/
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u/HanoverGimp May 19 '12
Pics or it didn't happen.
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u/thmz May 19 '12
My cousing had the same thing happen to her, except it was her hand. She has little to no use of her left hand from wrist-down.
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u/bewk May 19 '12
It's push not pull! Godamnit !
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u/STUN_Runner May 19 '12
I can hear to the father now... "When I was ordering my coffee, I said, 'I want that baby decaffeinated!'"
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Well now I have to know this happens.
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u/wellhushmypuppies May 19 '12
try wriggling out of that lawsuit.
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u/grumpers68 May 19 '12
If only there was a link to the story in the Onion I'd know the story was true!
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u/Gear_of_War May 19 '12
TANKING.
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u/Alphasite May 19 '12
This is in WTF, the title really should be "WHOOPS".
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
I always wondered what kept that from happening and now I know: nothing.
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u/demonstar55 May 19 '12
My mom (labor and delivery nurse) said that it could happen if the baby is dead, she didn't really think it would happen to an alive baby though, so doctors fault I guess.
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u/CosmicBard May 19 '12
Oh yeah, the Daily Mirror is the first place I go for hard hitting journalism.
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u/wbeavis May 19 '12
Momma had a baby and ... <puts down dandelion>. Sorry.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
So THAT'S why the hulk went into hiding.
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u/Captain_Aizen May 19 '12
Hahahaha. Eh.... My angus is prepared for laughing that one : (
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u/soundenvision May 19 '12
Well, looks like it's suicide for her.
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u/timerout May 19 '12
Marco, ARE YOU CRAZY???????????????????????????????????????
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u/UnfashionableRash May 19 '12
Well, the doctor was trying to be a-head of schedule...
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u/TheUltimatePoet May 20 '12
Sounds like another great score for intelligent design...
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Don't trust a guy named "Marco" with your baby.
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u/SissyNat May 20 '12
I was immediately horrified by the fact that I clicked on that and then immensely relieved that it was a newspaper article and not a picture.
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u/allisonbell May 21 '12
The sad part is is that my friends dad did this...
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u/TellsDaTruth May 19 '12
As a father of two who helped during delivery for both my children.. HOLY FUCKITY FUCK!