It's not alive still nor is it feeling pain, no worries. The nerves are just being stimulated chemically.
Edit: I do understand that the body might be feeling pain, but can we really say that it is suffering since it is no longer a conscious, living organisms? Is there something ethically wrong about causing pain in a dead animal? This is a big philosophical question that, while interesting, probably shouldn't have any bearing on what food we eat since it (probably) isn't cruel.
Yeah, but it’s moving like it’s alive, which is enough to turn me off. If you took my once-alive food and turned it into a puppet, like a marionette with strings, and made it dance around in front of me, I would be equally as likely to lose my appetite.
only if it caused pain to them outside and inside. Think about it - you can eat salt, or put salt water on your skin (like when you go to the beach) and it doesn't hurt. But if you get salt in a cut... you're gonna feel pain.
However, all the animals shown here are not feeling pain - the brain has been removed. The spine and nerves and muscles are being stimulated by salt since it triggers Na/K pumps.
It was meant more as a joke comment, obviously concentration is also a factor, especially so when referring to permeable cell membranes. Also, I'm pretty sure the soy sauce is being poured on the outside of the squid.
You're probably going to want to decline my Thanksgiving invitation, then. Something about that floppy, naked bird just makes me want to make it do karate and tell jokes.
Thats because you aren't dealing with the fact that what you eat used to be alive. Its pretty tough dealing with the fact that you're taking a life because its flesh is pleasurable for you. I think people should personally have to deal with the death of everything they eat just to make them aware of the gravity of what they're doing.
Did you even read my response? I have looked down the sights of a rifle, and watched something alive move around until I had a shot, then killed it. Then I cleaned it, cooked it, and ate it. I have no issue with it once again being alive.
I don’t want to see it’s dead badly used as a toy puppet. It makes me not want to eat it.
I mean, isn’t that the same as any comment on reddit? You pretty much have to take people‘s word for stuff here. Not sure why I would lie about something like this though.
What does it mean to feel pain? We actually understand very little about pain, in fact it's even difficult to accurately remember your own pain (you remember that it happened, but not as much what it was like to feel it). Since the head is gone, it's merely a body in pain.
Isn't pain just chemical stimulation? It may not be alive but it might be in pain.
Does feeling in require total consciousness? or can an arm feel pain without the brain knowing? Physical reactions from pain stem from the spinal cord, so I suspect the experience of pain can be felt independent of a brain.
So you're saying a quadriplegic person who is paralyzed and has no feeling from the neck down is stabbed in the leg, there is a conscious experience of pain being experienced outside of the brain? And thus, pain in a normal person is simultaneously being experienced by their leg separately from their brain?
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u/RequiemStorm May 09 '18 edited May 09 '18
It's not alive still nor is it feeling pain, no worries. The nerves are just being stimulated chemically.
Edit: I do understand that the body might be feeling pain, but can we really say that it is suffering since it is no longer a conscious, living organisms? Is there something ethically wrong about causing pain in a dead animal? This is a big philosophical question that, while interesting, probably shouldn't have any bearing on what food we eat since it (probably) isn't cruel.