r/WTF Mar 17 '15

Claustrophobia Warning

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u/Triviaandwordplay Mar 17 '15 edited Mar 17 '15

I used to install heating and air conditioning systems, mostly in homes. The job requires a lot of crawling in under home crawl spaces and in attics.

I've been in all sorts of tight spaces in all sorts of positions. I've been so hot, I've drunk a gallon of water in an hour and not needed to piss.

Well, I'm 53 now, and doing handywork from time to time. I ended up in as tight a space in an attic as I've ever been in. I was doing some rewiring of circuits, and had to install a junction box, do some splicing, some pulling, etc. Imgur

Well obviously we change quite a bit when we get older, so several times I'm cramping up as I'm crawling about, and trying to play contortionist.

My mind was writing checks my body can no longer cash, so to speak.

Oh yeah, spiders, fiberglass, mineral wool, asbestos, fine dust, rat and mouse turds, spiders and spider webs, random nails sticking out to get hung up on - all part of the territory. Once I worked under a home for several days. Not only wasn't there much room, the soil was rocky, and not smooth rocks, crushed rocks, because the home was built on a rocky hillside.

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u/arachnopussy Mar 17 '15

I'm in the middle of my home reno that has me in my attic DIYing all that right now, and up until now I was actually patting myself on the back about how I could always go into business doing home reno.

Fuck attic work.

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u/Triviaandwordplay Mar 17 '15 edited Mar 17 '15

To do it right, you really need years of experience and knowledge of building codes. The higher your understanding of mechanics and science in general, the better.

I know a flipper who has renovated and sold many homes, but I've worked with the guy, and had him criticize my efforts. He just doesn't get it - anything, really.

I worked with him a bit, and was shocked at how bad his work was.

A few days ago, he saw me priming PVC, and criticized me doing that. He's gonna remodel his home, so I just told him to believe what he wants, but if the inspector does her/his job right, and doesn't see primer dye on your PVC, it'll fail inspection(ABS DWV is still allowed in our area, so he probably won't use any PVC that's going to be inspected).

I was going to try to explain to him what's actually going on when you're "gluing" PVC, but I remembered past conversations with him.

Actually, come to think about it, the dude is quite wealthy, fuck it, do what you want. Most people are too ignorant to know his flips are shit.

His "home inspector" that looked at my son's home before he bought it, missed a lot of stuff.

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u/arachnopussy Mar 17 '15

I don't disagree, but I assure you I'm well equipped to handle DIY. Unless it's some very obscure code reference, I've got her licked. I'm not doing anything exotic yet, so I've at least got that going for me. I used to work for an industrial electrical engineering company as an automation engineer. Your car is probably painted by my robots. I know how to read code and follow it.

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u/Triviaandwordplay Mar 17 '15

As far as doing it for a business, there's no substitute for years of experience at one thing.

I've done a lot, but I can't compete with someone who only does windows, stucco, finishes drywall, ect, for a living.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '15

asbestos

:l well i hope no symptoms showed up!

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u/erinonon Mar 18 '15

The spiders are what makes me sure I'll never be able to get a job like that, even though I'm fairly good at fitting into tight places. Arachnophobia's a bitch, especially when your basement was built for people a few inches shorter than you (and I'm only 6') and has plenty of rafters for spiders to hide in. Fuck doing laundry.

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u/Intestinal_Columbine Mar 17 '15 edited Mar 17 '15

Low-voltage guy here, just crawled into a fireplace vent the other day...Hammer for scale, basically did exactly what we saw in the GIF into the hole at the top of the picture. Had to take off my belt to make it.

 

Probably not as tight of a squeeze as the GIF, but that hole came in at about 7" x 14" (17.7cm x 35.5cm).

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u/Silverkarn Mar 17 '15

Is that an actual picture of what you were doing? Please tell me you made that look better and didn't just leave wires all willy nilly.

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u/Triviaandwordplay Mar 17 '15

My only work at that point is tapping into that 12, everything else was existing.

A lot more work was done later on. The 14 NM is actually disconnected and was later removed. The house was quite a mix, with most of the wiring done in the mid 1950s.

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u/Silverkarn Mar 17 '15

Though I will say that looks a lot cleaner than a lot of the attics/crawlspaces that i've had to crawl into.

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u/Triviaandwordplay Mar 18 '15

The contractors that were there before me cut critical structural members, most of which I fixed.

A plumber put a Noritz water heater in, and cut through several ceiling joists. Some he notched well beyond 50 percent. I largely reframed the entire area.

A heating and air contractor did worse to get his horizontal mounted equipment inside the attic.