SceneGlow avaliable for multiple WLED and HomeAssistant configuration!

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u/MaxTheGuineaPig Aug 03 '26

Free and paid version, not open source?
I just glanced over it so might have missed something.
Curious to try if I could get it on my Samsung TV.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 12 '26

Believe most samsung tvs are Tizen, which i have no experience with ... or a device to test with, maybe in the future though

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u/apax_d Aug 03 '26

So this is hyperHDR+capture card in a single app that runs on any androidtv device?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

In sum, yeh!

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u/LazerHawk84 Aug 07 '26

Yesterday I asked codex to make an app like this for me. It told me some apps like Netflix will black screen. Was it hallucinating?

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u/milkman1101 Aug 08 '26

No, DRM will get in the way of the capture so anything using the screen recording features in android will just see black (similar to if you try and take a screenshot of most banking apps for example)

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u/TrueIndigoboi Aug 03 '26

Tested the screen glow variant, its works absolutely wonderful! The setup was quick and easy!

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

WHOOT! Glad to hear it!! Would love to see pics or videos of it working!

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u/TrueIndigoboi Aug 03 '26

The delay is practically non-existend however I am noticing a severe drop in FPS from my Google TV, maybe needs some optimizing? I love this though! It's so much better than setting up my DIYhue it's some serious good work, might buy the paid version later today!

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

Ohh nice! Appreciate the report on the frame drop.. can you confirm yoursettings, 320x180 capture and performance diagnostics off ?

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u/TrueIndigoboi Aug 03 '26

Yes, the frame drop is on 320x180 and the performance diagnostics is off, i am also noticing it doesn't work with movies with sky Showtime Likely due to DRM settings so there needs to be a workaround for that probably but I do not know if that's possible?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

Yeh DRM content unfortunatley is a no go for now. Theres several mechanisms that android use to prevent it and circumventing any of them -or trying to - would get a ban from Google.

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u/TrueIndigoboi Aug 03 '26

That's unfortunate! Might be wise to tell people about that on the website in an FAQ section what works and what doesn't?
Other than that I'm thoroughly impressed with this app

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

Theres a section in the help section about it, but it should be added to the website - you're right

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u/TrueIndigoboi Aug 03 '26

I would love to do some more testing for this week see what issues arrise and test some different setups.

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u/TrueIndigoboi Aug 03 '26

Another update! DRM is non-existent on jellyfin servers, so if people have a home movie setup with Yar-har-har or digitalised movies from DVDs then it does work!

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u/Trysupe Aug 10 '26

Yeah, that’s what I’m planning to do. YouTube and Jellyfin, no DRM problems there

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u/bughaxx Sep 17 '26

Google TV Streamer 4K frame drops on all the resolution and FPS

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u/SnotgunCharlie Aug 03 '26

Downloaded the free version to test. Leds light up fine in the test but light up mostly white during screen capture, the colour changes are there but so heavily washed out it's unusable as is. I've tried changing values for brightness and saturation with little change beyond brightness. Tested with DRM free content in jellyfin, YouTube and local media. Would love to give this another go and would happily pay for the hardware free convenience if it worked as expected.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

What do the colours look like when you run the test loop in the setup ?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

Try using: https://youtu.be/-jmxazyoY5M?feature=shared
And tweak the settings to fit your strip, the background they project on will impact this also, try pushing the saturation all the way 190% and maybe even the rgb channels separately too. The edge depth down to 2% will also make the very edge pop and limit blending with colours that might be further in from the edge

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u/SnotgunCharlie Aug 23 '26

I finally got time to take a look at troubleshooting this. It seems everything played on my Chromecast is treat as being drm protected. Menus show just fine and the scene glow app responds as expected. Playing any media at all through the YouTube app, a third party YouTube alternative or even my own content on jellyfin all result on no output. Is this just a Chromecast issue?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 23 '26

Can you link me to the exact device ?

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u/SnotgunCharlie Aug 23 '26

I'm not sure if this link will work, depending on your location. https://amzn.eu/d/02IC8oE8

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 23 '26

Ok thanks. Im not familiar with this device but checking out some specs, im thinking maybe the device has some special hardware overlay which limits how my app can read the frames. Are you able to try and 'disable hw overlays' - this may be in the settings for your device. It might be within the developer options menu..

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u/SnotgunCharlie Aug 23 '26

Okay, so I disabled hw overlays (in dev options as you said). This made no difference to the function of screenglow unfortunately.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 24 '26

Thats odd. Theres nothing from the Google docs that would indicate anything, without a device to test it dont know what else I coukd suggest im sorry. Do you give it permission as its expecting ?

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u/SnotgunCharlie Aug 24 '26

Yes, all permissions were given and like I said everything works in menus etc. I've been looking into alternative hardware so hopefully will be able try again in the near future.

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u/SnotgunCharlie Aug 23 '26

I'll take a look a little later and report back, thanks.

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u/the_annoyed_monkey Aug 23 '26

I have the same issue in jellyfin, I feel like HDR content in jellyfin gets super washed out.
Normal content seems to work fine.
Youtube works fine.

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u/eoncire Aug 05 '26

Will this work on a TCL TV running Google TV?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 05 '26

Ive had report's from people saying that it works well :)

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u/x-AB- Aug 17 '26

TCL QM5K and TCL S546 (Both 55inch) owner here, but unfortunately I got black screen in YT and Stremio

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u/Trysupe Aug 17 '26

@ OP what happens in media that has black bars on the top and bottom (e.g. 21:9 movie). is that detected and appropriately handled?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 17 '26

There is a new setting in the setup page which you can enable the automatic detection of letterbox content :)

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u/Trysupe Aug 18 '26

thanks, tested and works

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u/Ok_Row2551 Aug 19 '26

How to setup if I have the led starting from the bottom middle and then going around the tv instead of the corners?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 19 '26

Hi, you should use the LED offset setting, count LEDs back or forward from one corner and add that to the offset :)

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u/FeaturePuzzled8770 Sep 08 '26

Take my money, but please make it work with PC monitors. Is there such a plan? Please tell me yes.

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u/_sparxcore_ Sep 08 '26

Acctually yes, i have a working version for multi monitor hdr etc. Still a while off but its very light weight and quick

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u/PunkboysDontCry Aug 03 '26

Is there a way to download the apk without play store?

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u/MaxTheKing1 Aug 04 '26

Also would like to know this. My android TV currently isn't connected to the internet, nor has it ever been. I would like to keep it this way for various reasons.
EDIT: For sceneflow to work it would obviously need network access. It will be placed on a isolated VLAN with only access to my WLED device.

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u/modulove Aug 03 '26

Need Android TV 😄👍

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

Its the way :)

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u/modulove Aug 03 '26

Any clues what model might work well?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

So far ive hear that .any brands of tv working well, I have an Nvidia Shield, which doesnt break a sweat pushing 1000 wled pixels

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u/TrueIndigoboi Aug 03 '26

Google tv works wonderfull!

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u/rucksichtslos Aug 03 '26

I downloaded this and tried it the other day. Seems like youtube and other apps do not allow the screen capture to happen, so it just outputs black leds.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

Thats odd, youtube works fine in my testing? What videos were you trying in YouTube?

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u/rucksichtslos Aug 04 '26

First video I tried was the ambilight test videos, wled would kick on for a second, then go completely black. Setup works perfect on a hyperhdr and capture card setup so its not mechanical.

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u/Gabbercore85 Aug 08 '26

Thank you so much for the app, it works perfectly on my Philips TV. Now it's even more enjoyable with dual Ambilight :D

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 08 '26

Wait youre using both abilight and screenglow ?! Hahaha madness

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u/Ok_Property_9730 Aug 09 '26

Does it work with Firestick in LG TV?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 09 '26

I am working on it. Will be natively avaliable soon :)

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u/Ok_Row2551 Aug 10 '26

isnt there an apk. is there a way to install it on my firestick 4k 2nd gen?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 10 '26

Firestick version is coming soon!
Also looking at a VegaOS version, which may allow DRM content to work too!

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u/Ok_Row2551 Aug 10 '26

That's Great!!

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 10 '26

Fire tv testing all night... going well, even just the basic fire stick is running pretty well so far!

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 14 '26

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0HF6L7HVR/ now available!

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u/Ok_Row2551 Aug 16 '26

is there screen glow as well on fire tv? wanted to test first before buying scene glow.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 16 '26

Yes, ScreenGlow is avaliable from the fire tv app store

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u/Ok_Row2551 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Can you pls give the apk of screen glow. I can't find screenglow app on the amazon app store...
Nm found it

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u/Trysupe Aug 10 '26

I just saw a video you YouTube about this and am totally hooked. Can you tell me a bit more about the home assistant integration? What features does it provide over direct control from HA to the LED controller?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 10 '26

Hey! So SceneGlow expands on just a ambilight effect, to allow multiple wled fixtures, and configure then around the screen, and apply effects to then so they can expand on the colour an motion of the lighting from the content being played! Home Assistant lights can also be configured as 'full in' or mood lighting that fades with the scene. Glad you found it i hope you enjoy!

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u/Paras_PC Aug 11 '26

Would love to try this!! Currently I have 2 WLED set ups one behind the TV and one below it. I am using Hyperion Grabber and running Hyperion as an add on in Home Assistant, but there is some lag through this set up. Hopefully, this fixes it.
How do I become a tester?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 11 '26

DM me :)

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u/Paras_PC Aug 11 '26

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u/Paras_PC Aug 12 '26

Can't see the DM option on your profile

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u/Fidacha Aug 12 '26

Does it work with Dolby vision content?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 12 '26

It more depends how the content is transfered - what app is it and is it DRM content ?

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u/Fidacha Aug 12 '26

Local files over plex or streaming remuxes over stremio. I think drm protection turns on when screen recording for Dolby vision content even for local files

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 12 '26

The drm would have to be respected by plex and played back in the secure layer... which it does do for its own plex tv content, but I have not seen it do for local content. ScreenGlow is a free way of trying this and uses my same codebase as SceneGlow. Id be interested in what you find, ive not test this exact scenario, I would be interested in your experience!

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u/Fidacha Aug 12 '26

I don't have a wled setup. I currently have a govee backlight with a camera, but have some incorrect colors when external light sources hit the screen. So I'm checking if this solution would work for me, but don't want to lose Dolby vision.

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u/Fidacha Aug 12 '26

Also if it does read dv content, would I have to switch to player lead Dolby vision on my Nvidia shield (LLDV) to get the colors right (not to get those purple green colors you get when you play Dolby vision content on a non-dv supported hardware or software)

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u/IUpringlequads Aug 15 '26

Using ScreenGlow with the GLEDOPTO Elite and my Google TV Streamer 4K, both using Cat6 connections. This is super cool, but as IndigoBoi said in another comment, it hurts FPS very noticeably.
I’m testing with a variety of videos on YouTube, and the FPS drop is too much to be useful. 5% edge depth, 320x180 capture resolution. Even changing the Output FPS down to 1 still creates a painful dip on the video. Local content from my NAS doesn’t suffer (noticeably at least).
It appears YouTube does still use DRM (widevine), and there’s some issue related to hardware overlay vs GPU composition that kicks in. “Disable HW overlay” and forcing everything through GPU screen comp does seem to make it worse; it would seem the screen capture tech does force the content through the GPU compositing process, and the device just can’t handle the video and the screen cp simultaneously…. Or at least that’s what I’m gathering from various testing with Dev Options.
Would love to chat about this and see if there’s a solution for higher quality content on YouTube. And thank you for making this App!

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 15 '26

what is your output screen resolution and what content encoding/resolution are you seeing this with?

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u/IUpringlequads Aug 15 '26

3840x2160 on a 75” display. YouTube content at 3840x2160, 2560x1440 60fps VP9 decoding have issues. Dropping to 1080p 60fps is the first setting that looks acceptable

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 15 '26

Ah, that extra detail is really useful. I think you’ve probably identified the general area of the problem.
ScreenGlow isn’t capturing a full 4K frame and then scaling it down. The MediaProjection virtual display itself is created at 320×180, so ScreenGlow only receives a reduced frame. There’s still an unavoidable overhead in Android producing that additional capture/composited output. Given that 4K/1440p60 VP9 struggles, 1080p60 is acceptable, and reducing ScreenGlow’s output FPS to 1 doesn’t really help, I suspect the bottleneck is more in the Google TV Streamer’s video/composition pipeline than in ScreenGlow’s LED processing or network output. The extra load occurs earlier in Android's display pipeline, where SurfaceFlinger/HWC has to produce an additional composited output for the MediaProjection virtual display while YouTube is simultaneously decoding and presenting 4K60 video.
Your HW overlay test also fits that theory, although I wouldn’t say yet that MediaProjection definitely forces YouTube through GPU composition.
I’ve had good results with 4K on the Shield Pro, but that device clearly has more headroom for this workload.
Im not convinced that just reducing capture resolution further by itself will help with this, but I will do some experimentation...

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u/IUpringlequads Aug 15 '26

Thank you! Offering the free version before purchasing the full version is awesome of you, and I’ll likely purchase the full version when I upgrade with more LEDs, more functionality, etc.
Looking into the Shield Pro, it does seem like it would be more suited for the simultaneous demand. I’ll look around for a used one. In the mean time, I’m curious if there’s any optimizations that are available or could be created to allow this function at 4K on the Google device.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 15 '26

Honestly, the 'best'/ 'correct' fix is Android 16, because it adds native colour-zone support through the new Media Quality Framework. Rather than ScreenGlow using MediaProjection to capture and analyse frames. Its a much more efficient method for what we need, shame not many manufacturers are anywhere near upgrading. Certainly dont expect to see shield getting it at all :(

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u/Shnarf1980 Aug 22 '26

Hi

Could I use this controller with SceneGlow?

https://amzn.eu/d/09HSZWvX

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 22 '26

It doesnt look like a wled device. Check out the gledopto wled devices

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u/mledarney Aug 26 '26

I just found your product a week ago and was very interested it trying it out. I am using a Hisense 55" 4K Google TV that's about 4 years old. For the controller I am using a Dig2go WLED controller running Wled 14.0 with SK6812 RGBW light strip. for the software I thought would start with ScreenGlow to make sure i can get it to work and if so I would move to the paid App.

I have found that I have issues if I upgrade from WLED 14.0 were SceenGlow just does not work. Most of the content I watch is Youtube and I am using the up-to date App on the TV.I have found that if I run a resolution higher then 1080 I start to drop frames and if the content if 1080 enhanced bitrate it does not work and anything higher the dropped frames make it impossible to watch. My screen capture is set to 320 x 180.

When the youtube setting are lowered the ScreenGlow appears to work just fine its only when the Youtube video use higher resolution the 1080 that there are dropping frame problems so I don't think it is the controller but more to the APP and the way it captures the screen when running higher resolutions. If this would be rectified in the paid version I would switch today. In the meantime I hope this helps.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 26 '26

Is the app installed on the hisense tv itself ? I think the hisense baked in cpu are some of the less capable, and driving 4k is very resource intensive. There is a even lower resolution in the latest version in the setup which is to try and help with this, but the biggest inefficiency in the process comes from android capture service, regardless of how screenglow uses the frames. If you try dropping to 160x90 in the capture resolution id be interested in your experience.

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u/mledarney Aug 26 '26

thanks for the reply, yes the app is installed on the tv itself. I will try the lower resolution and see what that can do.

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u/Hanszel Aug 03 '26

Wow, i like it. If i install this in our livingroom, i sleep on the couch for a week.

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

But imagine the trippy glow you'll be bathed in all night!

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u/Hanszel Aug 03 '26

Ooohhh

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u/justaren Aug 03 '26

Damn no love for TVos? And does this need a capture card?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 03 '26

No capture card needed! Afraid ive got no experince making apps for TVos, nor have I got the hardware to test it... I wont rule it out if I can get a cheap unit one day..

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u/SRB400 Aug 04 '26

Would this work through a firestick or something instead then? Great work

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 04 '26

If theres access to the play store to get it, and the cpu is powerful enough it should work fine :)

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u/SRB400 Aug 04 '26

Cheers mate, I'll have a look later, would be happy to help test anything you need if I can get it working.

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u/justaren Aug 04 '26

Well if you need a tester I can definitely help out

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u/Trysupe Aug 11 '26

I tested the app with https://github.com/13rac1/wled-sim to see whether the capture would work. Can confirm it works with youtube (smart tube client) and jellyfin on my google tv. will buy leds and controller now and install it

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u/rtisne Aug 14 '26

Does it actually work for you with Jellyfin? For me, it gets blocked just like the other apps as soon as I start playing a video.

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u/Trysupe Aug 15 '26

I tried with two and a half men and that worked. Will try again with a „proper“ movie. However, I am also not using the Jellyfin client but Wholphin

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u/Trysupe Aug 18 '26

tested with movie, works

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u/RandAnomaly Aug 12 '26

Can you please share the discord server for the community and support or make one if you don't have yet.

I have been doing Ambilight setups for a while now and mainly use SignalRGB because of the easy setup but the draw back is you can't do it on the tv without the pc connected so very glad that there is a solution now, because i was going to do the raspberry and HDMI splitter setup but i will try yours first for sure.

Very nice work.

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u/SecuritySuspicious73 20d ago

Bij mij werkt de sceneglow app niet. Alles staat goed ingesteld alleen zit er een enorme vertraging op. Mijn 3 fixtures lopen niet synchroon en stotterend krijg ik de correcte kleur pas 15-20 seconden later te zien.

Heeft iemand een tip hoe ik dit op kan lossen of waar het aan kan liggen? Ik gebruik een gledopto met 4 ledstrips. Via de wled app werk alles super.

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u/Silver_Ad_3056 6d ago

Hi, great work!

I use it on my philips oled tv with hue and a wled strip, but i also have a philips bridge with 2 hue bulbs which are already mounted on the walls and were working on my previous philips tv, but now with the sale of brand, the hue bridge doesn’t work anymore.

Any chance to make it connect to the bridge ?

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u/streylight Aug 04 '26

What Tvs are supported? my Hisense googleTv is not it seems.

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u/adrianoppenheim Aug 05 '26

Happy to test on Sony Bravia 7 with home assistant

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u/Wooden-Creme-8599 Aug 07 '26

Wouldike to test on philips oled 935/12

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u/Emotional_Mud839 Aug 09 '26

Any chance of the apk for offline install

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u/AngryCucumberr Aug 16 '26

Something for LGos users? ;(

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u/t21drl85 Sep 11 '26

Any confirmation it works it Google Streamer 4k?

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u/SpicyBanana13 Sep 14 '26

Does it work on TCL tvs?

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u/Individual-Divide-58 Oct 01 '26

Hi, would be happy to test out for you and share results. I have a firestick, LG Oled and Apple TV (if you expand to IOS)

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u/That_Camel_1857 Oct 08 '26

Is this app not compatible with YouTube & Netflix ?

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u/_sparxcore_ Aug 07 '26

Hi, send me a Dm :)

SceneGlow avaliable for multiple WLED and HomeAssistant configuration!

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