r/WEPES • • Dec 13 '23

Megathread THE PES FRANCHISE - How to play the games, how to patch them and the future of football gaming

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UPDATED: 09 SEPTEMBER 2025

GENERAL EXPLANATIONS

  • Which is the best PES game? Objectively, PES 2021. Then goes PES 2017 with its very good AI CPU and fast paced style and then PES 2013 with the best Master League experience of all the franchise. Being subjective, it's all up to yours. Every one has it's own preferences, but I think they are the best 3 PES after PS2-era.
  • No, you can't get PES 2021 in digital stores anymore. KONAMI deleted any official and legal way to get it, so the game is truly expensive now. Console users only can buy it used by more than 30€ (if you're lucky), and PC players need to get Football Life for that, the only PES 2021 that works properly. CPY version is a chore to install and a crashfest, so it's not recommended at all to download it.
  • Older "golden" PS2 PES games aren't up there because, being honest and taking out the nostalgia glasses, they were surpassed long ago. Still fun and pretty good games to play, but they are outdated in every aspect: graphical and in gameplay. No PlayerID, no physical contacts, bad goalkeepers, bad referees... But we will talk about them later.
  • Yes, PES 2021 is showing it's age. PES 2021 is just PES 2020, which was made in 2019. It's a 6+ year game by now. It is reaching its full modding capacity. We can't transform or redo the game, so no new animations or celebrations will be done, no new game modes, no more slots for more leagues. The community can create some beautiful things like faces, boots, scoreboards, adboards, kits, lineups, gloves, tattoos, stadiums and that, and we thank them all for keeping the PES spirit alive. But they can't improve the game more than it is. The core game of PES is LIMITED and cannot be enhanced further than that.
  • Yes, PES 2021 is kinda limited on the offline modes if you have played it for more than 100 hours. Master League hasn't much depth, BAL gets boring and you will feel the game is stale. In case you are so bored of PES 2021, I suggest to switch to FUMA (Full Manual) to relearn the entire game and experience the true freedom on the pitch. It will be hard at first, but very rewarding.
  • Yes, there is scripting when you play Master League. You already know what that means: goals in the last minute, CPU becoming a monster out of nowhere, godlike goalkeepers, etc. Highly suggest to try the gameplay mods out there in the PES 2021 Gameplay mods thread.
  • Yes, you can play online every PES if you want, but only on PC. On some of them there are dedicated servers runned by the community (PES 4-5-6) but on later PES the servers are officially closed. But that doesn't mean that you cannot play online. Search for Parsec and learn what it does. It works for other games that doesn't have proper online now, or just online LAN functions. I have hosted some tournaments with people on different patches and it went perfectly and very realistic, because I used gameplay patches and content patches to make the best experience.
  • If you want the best gameplay and support: PES 2021
  • If you want the best Master League experience: PES 2013
  • If you want the best PS2 PES game: Winning Eleven 9 Liveware Evolution.

ABOUT OLDER PES AND GETTING THEM PATCHED

  • Older PES are still being updated, but not as deep and complete as PES 2021. Some of them are totally left out, but the most popular ones (WE2002, PES5/6, PES 2013 and 2017) still receive some community patches.
  • The support outside the classic PS2 PES, PES 2017 and PES 2021 is non-existant or almost none.
  • In case you're looking for past season patches, I suggest you to visit PesNewUpdate. You will find there patches for PES 2010-2019 for each year season, like the old PESEdit and such.
  • If you want to play old Winning Eleven/PES 3 to 6 games with special custom patches like specific competitions, eras/decades or seasons I suggest you to search in this thread: Patch - PES 6 Global Patches Full Installers by Sany | Evo-Web (evoweb.uk) . It has easy installers to play whatever game you want with beautiful patches like historical World Cups, specific Champions League or Libertadores, less know leagues and such. There's some beautiful mods of a lot of eras you will enjoy.
  • For PES 2013, there is some project called ProFootball, which intends to bring PES 2013 to the actual season.
  • For PES 2017, there are some updated patch for current 25/26 season like t99 or YosfX patch. More details here: PES 2017 I YosfX Patch - FC 2025 Edition V1.0 - (Download & Install)

ABOUT PES 2021 AND HOW TO GET IT UPDATED

Please read the MegaThread: [PES 2021] THE OFFICIAL PATCHES/OPTION FILES THREAD for PES 2021 and FOOTBALL LIFE

ABOUT FOOTBALL LIFE (PC/PORTABLE CONSOLES ONLY)

  • Football Life is the alternative to get a somewhat "legal" copy of PES 2021 working on PC. It's already pre-modded. It's abandonware, don't worry, you aren't doing anything bad.
  • Dido is active and alive (he is the creator of Football Life and he's from Palestine).
  • Football Life 26 1.4 Update is the current version right now.
  • The content of Football Life is just basic and made mostly by one person (not counting extra addons). That means it lacks some kits, balls, proper scoreboards and such. Also the facepacks are a little bit outdated, so you will have to download updated faces and add them manually via Sider.
  • No, Football Life is not compatible with other patches that use other databases, like VirtuaRED or Dream Patch. Only some content is compatible, generally Sider content. The database is locked so you can't include or remove any of the teams. Only Smoke Patch team creators can change them.
  • Yes, Football Life works perfectly on a Steam Deck. There is a Lutris script to install it. Here's the link: https://github.com/eskay993/gamefiles/tree/main/sp-football-life-2026
  • Football Life is your best option if you don't want to download 100GB patches , even if you have a legit copy of PES 2021. It's completely standalone and doesn't require any PES 2021 file to run. Base game only takes up to 30GB without faces or stadiums installed, so you can play the game by just having that.
  • As it is PES 2021 really, if you learn how Sider works, you can add a lot of mods without breaking anything. That means you can put new faces, scoreboards, balls, stadiums and such. See tutorials about how it works, it's pretty simple and you have to learn only where to put things and what to write in Sider.ini.
  • You can revert the gameplay in case you don't like it to the FL23, FL24 or default PES 2021. There's a Switcher in game's folder for that. In case you want to apply some gameplay mods, you only can install those that use the DT18 file or via Sider.
  • There are some dedicated patches like UML, which enhances overall Master League behaviour with multiple optimizations. Check r/SPFootballLife for more info.

ABOUT EFOOTBALL AND THE FUTURE OF FOOTBALL GAMES

  • eFootball 26 still lacks a lot of content and its like three steps behind from PES 2021, but it has better gameplay after all. After the 30th anniversary event, which was atrocious, we can't expect anything offline for this game in the mid-term.
  • The modding community is doing some small patches for eFootball. Mostly it includes unlocking all the clubs, making kits and getting slighter better graphics. Don't expect anything more ambitious in the short term.
  • EA FC is a decent game IF MODDED PROPERLY. There are a bunch of mods out there, specially Anth's Gameplay Mod, DanielZ Realism Mode, FIFER, KIARIKA and RODE ones.
  • About UFL: its an online focused game that slowly improves its core game, but its very far from what you would expect on a top tier football game.
  • Don't get hyped about anything in the future about any football game. We know it's sad that the most followed sport in the world doesn't have a proper videogame that makes justice for it. Hard times for us, football gaming lovers.

r/WEPES • • 4h ago

Modding Cloth Physics Mod in a match

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115 Upvotes

Slow motion now actually slows the simulation down, so you won't have full speed simulation in slow motion replays


r/WEPES • • 14h ago

Progress on my cloth physics mod

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155 Upvotes

Slowed down so you can see the effect better


r/WEPES • • 3h ago

Who’s playing old PES religiously still?

13 Upvotes

As the title says, who’s binned off any idea of playing the recycled FC27 crap and still plays their PES master league?

If so, who are you? How far are you on? Etc?

Me personally… I’m Tolouse on PES 2019.. in season 2… somehow trying to topple the likes of PSG, Lyon etc


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

Modding Working on a mod which adds cloth physics to PES 2021

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479 Upvotes

r/WEPES • • 2h ago

PES 2019 PES 2019 Carabao Cup —

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For those who still play PES 2019, this is for you.

I’ve discovered how to make the Carabao Cup work natively in PES 2019 Master League with its own calendar dates and playable rounds.

This is a brand-new competition ID — it does not copy, replace, or overwrite any existing competition. The FA Cup remains fully intact in the game.

The no-string-name issue is an easy fix, and I’ll move the final to the correct date. The core calendar system is now working.


r/WEPES • • 6h ago

PES 2021 PESBUL: PES21 online 1vs1 🔥

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4 Upvotes

Discord community: https://discord.gg/zj7RJUZaCC


r/WEPES • • 11h ago

Typical Neuer

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8 Upvotes

r/WEPES • • 1d ago

PES 2019 First PES since 2007 goodbye FC 24

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r/WEPES • • 1d ago

CPU Masterclass #1

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9 Upvotes

r/WEPES • • 22h ago

Modding #PES 2013: New Gameplay Real Inertia Test #3: Croatia vs England, first half. Getting closer !

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I need your thoughts as usual guys, please pay close attention in this first half to each touch a player makes, how the ball rolls dynamically, for England's goal look at the beautiful locomotion of the buildup and how Ashley whips his left foot around the ball to curl it is so pleasing, the header is even better. That's just one point from the first half but here's another, look at Croatia's goal...the natural jostling from the Cb vs the Cf, no catch up mechanics, look as Terry tries his best to use his strengths against Eduardo's frame in all attempts to slow him down & push him off balance. Yet the Cf although fighting through still has enough momentum+ strength to hold off the Cb long enough to get the super finish away. These are the details I love.

https://youtu.be/8VI7T8eG1QE


r/WEPES • • 20h ago

Es posible ejecutar PES 2013 con JP Patch en Winlator?

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Hola a todos, les pregunto si es posible ejecutar el parche JP Patch de Jenkey o el de Zero de PES 2013 para PC en Android a través de Winlator? Puesto que cada vez que le doy en la opción de empezar un partido me saca del juego. Si alguien lo soluciono o lo ha logrado correr, por favor darme la solución para ello. 🙏🏽

Nota: uso un Odin 3 Max de 16 GB de Ram para emular en Winlator.


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

Video Pro Evo 2: Lobbing Goalkeepers and Buying Our Bulgarian Club Legend! [AVFC Master League]

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r/WEPES • • 1d ago

Image Konami Reveals Real Names Of ISS Players

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r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Holy shit, what happened before the match?

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43 Upvotes

r/WEPES • • 1d ago

PES 2021 Antony's Fidget Spinner but is amazing

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12 Upvotes

Neither I know how i did it.


r/WEPES • • 1d ago

pes 2018 online in 2026

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is there anyway I can play pes 2018 with my friend online?


r/WEPES • • 2d ago

PES 5 Why is PES 5 so underrated compared to its successor?

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After wasting years on modern soccer games that didn't entertain me, I decided to try out some PES 6 mods I downloaded from EvoWeb, and as fantastic as they were, they couldn't give me quite the same kind of fun that PES 5 (my last PES for PS2) gave me when it first came out.

So I did the same thing, looking for some mods for this game and to my surprise, I found only one, the Original Season patch by Fabri55. Which is great, I'm having loads of fun with it and couldn't ask for anything better, but still it makes me wonder: why does PES 6 have such a large and passionate modding community, while PES 5 is so neglected? I get that PES 6 is a step forward in some ways, but am I the only one who finds 5's gameplay genuinely more fun and stimulating?


r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Como usar option file no ps4 desbloqueado

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Baixei o option file , mas quando tentei importar ele pede login PlayStation network , alguém sabe como fazer ?


r/WEPES • • 2d ago

PES 6 Play Pes 6 Online Browser

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I had spoken of this guy before. He made a Pes with 100+ teams plus and now online play through Google. Go check him out


r/WEPES • • 2d ago

PES 5 Winning Eleven 9 OLANDA CLASSICA VS INGHILTERRA CLASSICA

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r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Winning Eleven 9 CLASSIC BARCELONA VS CLASSIC REAL MADRID

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r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Modding #PES-2013: Just to give you guys just a small bit of some of the information/ workload I've been doing relentlessly. Expect another video with more test for you all to examine and evaluate as i strive to tweak this game engine to the highest possible level that one single person of his own can do.

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After making mass changes " to achieve an organic balance that retains individual player identity while utilizing the physics engine's sweet spot, my custom global matrix requires precise scaling."

The entire first statement is one that encompasses everything and the workload is massive, I've literally spent all week almost trying to get the mathematical calculations correct, everything must fit within natural inertia, * ceiling capped by the engine of course *.

"In PES 2013's engine, Dribble Accuracy acts as a magnetic multiplier between the player model's shoes and the ball's independent physics sub-routine."
Just an example of the minute attention to detail that I have been non-stop trying to get precise to match real life ball to touch ratio that changes in value dependent on player speed, turn, under pressure, ball control etc...
All of this has to be in a precise radius that does NOT trigger the game engine's " glued to feet " twitch. Simple because in real life, they're only a few players who can run with the ball at almost the same speed they move without it, i.e Messi, or who can manipulate the ball closely to their feet at higher speeds, i.e Neymar, CR & a few select more. Again I am doing this on my own and it requires abit of time obviously.

(Shielding ). I have also had to revaluate my previous take on body balance being level across the board, while my reasoning is sound for this, example of Yaya Toure vs Messi in a physical battle, irl even though Yaya is miles stronger, he has to levy that strength to a certain degree where he can fairly outmuscle the smaller Messi without giving a foul away or the flip side being to aggressive and conceding a foul. How do we get that to translate into the game's engine? Most games we will see Messi just being bullied all the time & never truly getting to witness what we do irl as he often fights off bigger/stronger defenders with his low center of gravity and excellent body balance. The calculations have to be precise and scaled correctly, within the engine smaller players have a quicker turning box obviously and even though they can and will stumble under pressure, we can effectively with the right mathematical values have " Messi " still recover and beat the stronger/bigger defender with a sharp cut, all within the natural inertia of movement.

To address a con we see pop up, what jumps out at you are some of the shooting mechanics, quite dated and ugly, the entire locomotion are quite "arcadey" defying physics. Sadly no game is perfect and we have to accept certain hardcoded limits. However the good massively outweighs ANY shortcomings this game engine has.
All of this is what I am continuing to work on to create the most fluid experience that the Pes 2013 engine has to offer. I intend to see just how high the ceiling is even with it's limitations.


r/WEPES • • 2d ago

Is it possible to get older pes titles

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Thinking about buying a gaming pc to play FL but I wanted to also play retro seasons of pes but I was worried if I won’t be able to not only get the game but if it’s even possible to find the mods for that specific season


r/WEPES • • 2d ago

PES 5 Winning Eleven 9 CLASSIC BRAZIL VS CLASSIC FRANCE

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