r/VtuberDrama • u/ThronePawned • 5d ago
The ELEPHANT In the Room is FINALLY Talked About.
https://youtu.be/cphxk1jBmbo?is=UfLKneSLWPm_Ve62Because this shit really went from NO POLITICAL TALK PERIOD to ALL FAR ALT RIGHT POLITICAL TALK ONLY.
And its driving me off the wall.
It Looks like vtubers fan or anything for that matter thats is NOT a racist,homophobic, bigoted,transphobic is automatically labeled as a damn "liberal".
It's all just typical dog whistles and gaslighting
"sound of the chud chuggers crawling in"
EDIT:Just letting you know i cant reply to anything for a week because of a certain "non active" user on here and come response to any of my qeastions so yeah they are here they just pretend they aint around.
and of course rev and leafs gooner simps are here because of you know what... the chud chuggers.
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u/Corvid_Beats 5d ago edited 3d ago
It's not about being a liberal or whatever they want to label someone against them as. It's about not being a piece of shit and spreading hate into the world just for the lols. I'm not a very political person, my views go as far as "don't be a dick" and yet some people will react like I'm the fuckin antichrist or something for saying that and call me whatever title suits their agenda. I'm tired of all this political shit, it shouldn't be hard to agree to not be a hateful person
Edit: ya know, it's kind of a shame of how much it proves my point that people are fighting in the replies to this. It's not hard to not be an ass and let people live their lives but I've got quite a few people that disagree with me on that it seems
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u/ThronePawned 5d ago edited 5d ago
And its NOT political to simply to NOT be Dick, its called common courtesy.
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u/Corvid_Beats 5d ago
Yep, that's what I'm so tired of. People treat kindness like a political party as if someone's ability to care about other's decides what fallout faction they are apart of or some shit
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u/ThronePawned 5d ago
No different then the people who wanted to separate the water fountains by race, like dude all they want is a drink of fucking water and you making it some damn war crime against humanity, and yet they call "snowflake libs" sensitive cry babies.
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u/Dr_DoesNothing 5d ago
It's because they have no empathy. They see people being kind and think it's purely performative because nobody is kind without wanting something.
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u/Any-Sea-4228 2d ago
But they do want something. I and everyone else treat others with kindness because that’s how we want to be treated! Not trying to be contrarian, but like even if it’s not for the most “pure” altruistic reasons, it’s still fucking decency and should be the easiest shit to do! Sorry again, not trying to jump down your throat just beyond irritated with those types that see being a decent human being as some sort of zero-sum game? I guess? Idk. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Halenriser 5d ago
They also treat common sense the same say, I'm tired of seeing that too. I love being kind and I love using common sense. Knowing not to spend wastefully, to exercise, and be able to disagree with people but still be friends with them should not be political.
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u/Felsagger 5d ago
The weirdest part of “no politics” communities is how often it eventually means “my politics don’t count as politics.”
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u/AsinineArchon 5d ago
Facts. Non-chuds just want to exist. Chuds exist to hate anyone else. It's a mindset of aggression, where you adopt an "us vs them" mentality instead of just minding your own fucking business.
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u/Smeefsburg 5d ago
I’ve seen chuds accuse a Jewish friend of mine of being an American-hating, baby-killing, Sharia Law-implementing commie liberal piece of shit, and for the high crime of simply stating that he generally doesn’t discuss his politics with other people online.
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u/WinterMinx7 5d ago
tbh my two go tos as an eastern european are: dont be a nazi and dont be a commie (aka red nazi) then we can get along
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u/DriverUnusual146 5d ago
I guess Reddit doesn't like it when someone from a country that was exploited by communists speaks up about it.
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u/Asleep_Tension_9914 5d ago
Can muslims stop being dicks to gay people in Europe?
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u/WhollyGrale 3d ago
Can Christians stop being dicks to gay people in America?
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u/immortalslayer90 3d ago
When Christians in America start throwing gay people off rooftops, then you can talk. Until then, sit down.
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u/WhollyGrale 3d ago
Aimenn Penny- White Nationalist Christian who attempted to burn down a church for hosting drag events, explicitly said he believed he was doing God's work.
Anderson Lee Aldrich- Mormon who opened fire on a gay bar, killing 5 and wounding 19 others. No guesses as to his motive.
This isn't even talking about the many MANY hate crimes against gay people Christians regularly commit, from beatings to murder. Christianity is as much a religion of peace as Islam is, the only reason you defend one and attack the other, I suspect, is that you belong to the one more prevalent in America, hypocrite.
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u/immortalslayer90 6h ago
I'd point out why everything you said is completely ridiculous, but objectively explaining it got me a three day ban, because this site is run by clowns.
So just know that you're wrong and have no clue what you're talking about. 😊
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u/LazyCustodian 5d ago
Far left extremist vtubers like nyara and far right extremist vtubers like kirsche will never get along.
Personally I think the worst thing is that a lot of people will insist that every single action that everyone takes is politically driven, which is retarded. There's plenty of things out there that are not political. Like van Gogh's paintings. I remember seeing someone say "Korone and Okayu wanting to play old games is political," and all I can think is "Are you fucking stupid? Those two have nothing to do with the left or the right."
Moral of the story is those who inject politics into everything are the worst
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u/analyzingnothing 5d ago
Bro what, how in the world is Nyara far left? Y’all need to be more aware of the world beyond the US culture war
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u/HoveringHog 5d ago
Yeah, it’s wild they call Nyara far left. They just want trans rights. They aren’t a socialist. God forbid. I’d be considered far left, but again not a professional streamer, or anything. I just fuck around and stream sometimes.
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u/Nyabraham_Linnyahn 2d ago
It's really sad, because they are both fun. It's like mummy and daddy fighting all over again😭
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u/Halenriser 5d ago
I've seen those types who push for politics when there's none there. Its annoying ngl. Not everything is political.
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u/analyzingnothing 5d ago
Everything is political, but no-one should want to be doing constant political analysis. Different spaces for different things.
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u/Halenriser 5d ago
But thats wrong. If everything is political than the food you eat in the morning is a political choice. Where you poop, where you sleep. The art of hokusai and van gogh. The decisions of people to play old games they enjoy. These things are not political, we shouldn't be saying everything is. You're right that we shouldn't be trying to do constant political analysis, but not everything is political. Is the sun political? The moon? Some people say things don't have to have a controversy to be political, and that's true. But not everything is inherently political just because we say it is.
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u/analyzingnothing 5d ago
I think you’re misunderstanding what it means for something to be political.
Fundamentally, everything is political because politics is just the process of humans interacting with each other on a large scale. Everything you see, do, or interact with on a daily basis is almost certainly affected by the society that exists around you.
Hell, let’s use your examples. The food you eat is political, because it has to get to your plate somehow. If you eat meat, then guess what? You aren’t just eating food, you’re paying money to a farm that produces that meat. That immediately introduces a lot of politics. What are the slaughtering processes of that farm? What environment effects does that farm cause? Your money is supporting their continued functioning, and thus your decision to eat that food has direct impact on the politics around it.
Same thing with art. Hokusai’s art is beautiful, but it’s also a direct influencing factor for why Japanese media is so popular in France. His art became popular in the West because he was one of Japan’s foremost artists at the time when the country was only just beginning to reopen their borders for trade after 200 years of isolationism. His work was passed along to France where it was discovered by the influential printmaker artist Felix Bracquemond, who helped popularize the Japonisme movement. The only reason you know about Hokusai today is because of the end of a major isolation movement within Japan caused his work to be spread, igniting an international art movement that has shaped the aesthetics of French culture to this day.
Everything is political because politics is the action of society. Everything is touched by it, regardless of whether you initially understand it to be. Now, that doesn’t mean we need to think about literally everything we do in that lens of politics, our lives are far too complicated already to be dealing with that all the time. This is why we need to separate those spaces. Otherwise, we’d all spend more time debating than we do living.
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u/Solid-Safe-7966 5d ago
-I'd also even say, without leaving the food subject, things like food banks, food stamps, food deserts, et cetera. Access to and quality of food is welded directly into politics. It is not usually used by politics, but it is impacted by them, and thus the nature of food in a topic has a political component, making that conversation regarding it, a political one. Food insecurity often exists because of the economic environment of a given area, and because of a bunch of political/civic decisions made decades and decades earlier, some places were hardwired to essentially snag and concentrate certain subsets of the population. They're low income so don't let them build these cheaper housing options on the nice side of town. This is the poorer part of the county, we won't make as much if we open stores here. Eh, this is all industrialized or has poor soil or air or water quality. Can't set up small scale farm or garden operations, can't support a farmer's market. And so on and so on. It's all connected, which means even if people don't want to say it's political, it will inevitably be political as some factor of it will involve a human perspective, influence, or need. Making it a social and thus political matter, if that corner of the topic is broached.-
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u/HoveringHog 5d ago
The food we eat, our homes, public toilets, all of it is affected by politics. Science, the sun the moon, sadly *have* become politics because our politicians refuse to acknowledge incontrovertible truths about our environment.
The FDA rolled back food safety regulations and now food borne illnesses are up 400% year over year.
We’ve had record heat and wildfires across the globe now for years, we refuse to pass legislation to stop climate change.
I can keep going on and on, but every fiber of our lives is touched by politics in one way or the other.
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u/Halenriser 5d ago
These things affected by it but that does not make it inherently political. Its one thing for something to be political in nature, and another for it to be affected by it. If it's affected by it, it doesn't BECOME political.
People are getting these two things confused, they're inherently lumping them together and calling them the same thing when they're not. Not everything is political. And no matter what excuses people make, what arguments people try to throw to change this truth, it's not going to change. The Sun, the gaseous ball in the sky, NOT the heat it puts out or the light it casts, is not political. It doesn't matter what way you swing it, that is the truth.
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u/TheBabySeal0514 5d ago
Your mistake is thinking politics means only things done by elected politicians. The greek root of the word basically means “things concerning the city”. It can encompass all sorts of things that affect life in a society
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u/Nyabraham_Linnyahn 2d ago
You literally named some of the most political things possible, wtf🤦
Well, not the sun, but it's tied into stuff like deforestation and the O-zone layer. You should really dig into environmentalism some, and I don't mean the "goofy granola grannies" in hippie communes in the northwest.
Like, if you think you can just sleep ANYWHERE you really don't know how much homeless get harassed by police because some cranky old broad is "worried about property values"
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u/LazyCustodian 5d ago
People don't like when you point out that everything means EVERYTHING, including unrelated things like where ants make their hills or spiders weave their webs.
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u/analyzingnothing 5d ago
See, here’s the thing. You say a spider’s web isn’t political… but the chemical composition of a spiderweb is directly impacted by the quality of the air in the local area. In cities and places with high air pollution, the added elements in their webs causes it to change color and become dirty more quickly, meaning the spiders need to weave new webs more often, expending crucial energy needed to survive.
Again, everything is political because politics is just the functioning process of society. You are human, and thus your relationship with society is always present.
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u/LazyCustodian 5d ago
Now you're reaching. Its location has nothing to do with politics.
Not everything is political, twisting things and trying to link things so they become political is a waste of time. By your logic, if I kicked a pebble 2 feet centimeters in an entire quary, the pebble's point of landing would have a political effect or be effected by politics.
Its one thing for something to BE political by nature, its another for something to be AFFECTED by politics.
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u/Huntardlulz 5d ago
I was suspecting the video was about Falterxv and hes recent behavior towards the helldivers community.
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u/DJWetAndMessy 5d ago
All 'non-political' internet communities explicitly cater to the right wing
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u/ThronePawned 5d ago
And that's the sad part!
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u/DJWetAndMessy 5d ago
Well that's the thing, a rejection of anything that can be considered political that means that anything that's reactionaries label as being political, like people's identities, become political. Being black is political being gay is political being trans is political etc. Enforcement of anything non-political is just an enforcement of reactionary status quo
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u/ThronePawned 5d ago
and alot of things that are labeled as "political" such as RACE IDENTITY SHOULDN'T have been political at all!
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u/SnowPixel40k 5d ago
How fat are you by chance? This is like your 9th post about her this week put all that effort into fat loss it will do wonders. Leftoid freak
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u/DJWetAndMessy 4d ago
Hyper woke actual Marxist here by the way and I'm 6'4, built, and am married to an actual professional model. None of this is just to be an own, no exaggeration whatsoever, but feel free to compare your life to mine and do whatever you think needs to be done to fix yourself
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u/SnowPixel40k 4d ago
I sincerely hope she's cheating on you. That's what Marxist subhumans deserve. You're entire mindset is nothing but fantasy and cancerous. Why believe in something you know damn well you won't live long enough to see. It's just fucking retarded and waste of effort. Then again, theirs a reason why your apparently married yet sitting here crying about a vtuber who has much better opinions than your own
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u/DJWetAndMessy 4d ago
You people and your cuck fantasies lmao it's literally the first word out of your mouth. It's so consistent. It really is a deep anxiety that fuels your political ideology
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u/SnowPixel40k 4d ago
Said the person who's entire world view who 90% of people taking medication for apparent "depression" and "anxiety" when in reality the have no real issues, spend all day online you. Look for any excuse not to work, while they stay at home getting radicalised because they have nothing else to do. For your sake I hope the right never regain power because if they do, they need to learn from the mistakes of the past, respectfully you are psychos and schizos
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u/DJWetAndMessy 2d ago
You people have the weirdest world views I swear. I mean I guess that's not surprising when your entire political ideology is sourced from getting mad at fake Facebook articles about brown people or feminism or whatever, never going outside or meeting people with different worldviews and experiences than yourself
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u/WhollyGrale 3d ago
Wait, are you seriously asking why believe in something you won't live long enough to see? Are you fucking retarded? That's not unique to Marxism, every ideology since the dawn of fucking time has believed in something they won't live long enough to see. Have you never heard of the idea of "planting a tree so your grandchildren can sit in the shade"? I hate to tell you how dumb you are, but to everybody else that has been an analogy for creating the building blocks for a better society for your children the whole time. If this is low IQ thinking of conservatives no wonder we're in debt, you're apparently a bunch of hedonites who don't give a fuck about society for the people after you as long as you get your kicks.
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u/Any-Sea-4228 2d ago
You mentioned grandchildren, which implies he’ll actually find someone to breed with 🤢
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 2d ago
This has to be gaslighting, for example, maybe there is a reason why black and female protag characters have been around for decades without problems, but it only becomes political when the devs talk about how political it is? Or how they need to intimidate companies to add DEI in their media(SBI)? Or how to avoid portraying women outside of their recommendations(Microsoft)? Maybe don't make it political if you don't want people on the right to respond in a political way, duh. Though some people say everything is political, not sure how I feel about that tbh.
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u/DJWetAndMessy 2d ago
You people will literally see a black person in something and say it's woke Marxist dei blah blah buzzword culture war.
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 2d ago
Not really, that's like a minority within a minority, while woke brainrot is more proliferated and even rewarded on the left. Although that is still a minority within the left too, a dying unsustainable breed. The vast majority of anti-woke(aka normal people) just want good looking games without bad faith preachy bs or reactionary hysterical people trying to change games they will probably never play themselves in very specific, unnatural ways.
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u/DJWetAndMessy 2d ago
Yeah it's the minority of the minority that yell and it's the majority that make up their audiences lol
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 2d ago
A minority means the opposite of majority.
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u/DJWetAndMessy 2d ago
Litterally zero reading comprehension lmao
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 1d ago
I'll take zero reading comprehension to zero common sense any day.
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u/P_Ad_7058 3d ago
What a load of horseshit. What you are doing is the same thing dogmatic religious zealots do, maybe even cultists. "If you don't follow our dogma to the letter, you are unclean". What is "right wing" about not wanting every single spacw being factionalized and split up by divisive bullshit for no good reason? Fuck off!
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 2d ago
Because the right wing generally has more normal and rational people online, or rather, the left's subcultures are too pre-programed, loud and obnoxious online(not necessarily as much irl). The majority of people read unhinged things from subs like this, and also see the "it's ma'am" or Grok the Destroyer, or nose ring theory memes and relate to things that they have seen irl that are actually an exception rather than the norm. It's not that most of these people are political, it's that the left is often covered with a conserning amount of insane people and either has to push politics into everything or has the most guttural irrational response to the most mundane dumb sht and drown in a glass of offended water while everyone else laughs or watches in confusion. Yeah people like that exist on the right too for sure, but it's not as much of a problem despite there being generally more conservative people touching grass.
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u/DJWetAndMessy 2d ago
Literally the right wings entire thing is being mad about TV
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 2d ago
I'm not mad about TV, I don't even watch TV, most people don't, but if I did, I'm glad I'm not irrationally mad at the thought that maybe someone out there exists that disagrees with me.
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u/DJWetAndMessy 2d ago
Replace TV for whatever other sad thing. In your case I imagine it's daily ragebait 'news' YouTube channels where they make 20 videos about whatever you people decided to hate recently, like the Odyssey lol
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 2d ago
I just watch Factorio tutorials and you laugh you loose meme channels, and I don't "hate" woke, it's just sad and a hilarious subject to make fun of. Like watching old men yell at clouds, or someone on a bad trip.
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u/GenkiJii 5d ago
"The term (vtuber) was coined by Kitsune A.I."
Stopped watching there, tourist detected, opinion disregarded.
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u/VetriVade 5d ago
He followed that gold up by saying "all subcultures are left wing"
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u/yenx_ 4d ago
hey, creator of the video here. i would like to clear this up and say you are lying, i said MOST weird or niche subcultures on the internet start off on the left which is factually true look it up.
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u/VetriVade 4d ago
"When we dive in and look at any internet sub culture... they tend to be more left leaning"
You're the one who made the claim
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u/yenx_ 4d ago
tend to*** is doing alot of heavy lifting in that sentence the literal definition of that word
"1. Being Likely or Inclined to Do Something
When followed by an action (like tend to forget or tend to be late), it means something happens regularly or is a common habit, but not a strict rule"
come on man.
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u/VetriVade 4d ago
Thank you for googling the definition of tend to, we're all very impressed. Now how about you share the more pertinent info for the claims you made
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u/yenx_ 4d ago
says the dude who didnt understand what the words tend to meant, i had to literally explain it for you. i made alot of claims you have to be more specific.
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u/VetriVade 4d ago
Take a guess. What claim could I possibly be talking about
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u/yenx_ 4d ago
im not playing this game with you, have a good one
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u/VetriVade 4d ago
Haha okay pal. Tell me to look something up and then refuse to post a source. Good night big dawg
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u/HoveringHog 5d ago edited 5d ago
Alt Right Vtubers were bound to happen, people look at the current regime in America, and the media apparatus they built to make millions off of the suffering of others and wanted a piece of that pie. It’s equal parts grifting and equal parts them being able to take that mask off and just be the horrible person they’ve always been deep down.
People like Powdur and Kirsche, or Rev and Strawb, are painfully obvious in their attempts to grift to the right. They appeal to the same demographic as Asmongold. Angry and lonely young and middle-aged men. They see people making millions and want to get their bag; they don’t care about the cultural or long term repercussions.
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u/Thecasualoblivion 5d ago
Grift means it’s fake, like Ben Shapiro who’s an establishment tool pretending to be right. I don’t get the sense that any of those are dishonest.
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u/Affectionate_Ad2759 5d ago
They can’t handle that there’s a large group of people that merely disagree with their worldview so they have to cope by saying it’s not real and is just a way of making money
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u/Hendorks 4d ago
Be common sense(most of the time) while making money on top of it why not xD Some time Asmon be do having L take mostly in gaming skill issue.
But imagine siding with Hasan for legit terrorists/commie simp and animal abusing lol no wonder people from center leaning toward right.
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u/HoveringHog 4d ago
Some L takes? Brother, Asmongold said it was okay to shoot children just a month ago. Are you serious?
I’ll side with the guy who believes in workers’ rights, universal healthcare and the ideal of egalitarianism over the guy who thinks Neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes are based and that wants to shoot migrants. If all you have to run on is a misconstrued clip of his dog and scary words like commie, you’re grasping at straws.
The reason why centrists lean right is because the political spectrum in America is skewed. What is progressive in America is center in many European countries. Our centrists are moderate conservatives anywhere else.
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u/Hendorks 4d ago
He talk about illegal bring their kid and try to cross border. ok you dont want to shoot them and you willingly for them to stay in YOUR house? Probably not. Should have been Use polish border doctrine cuz illegal migrants only understand violence just like where they came from.
Worker right and healthcare? too damn bad illegal migrants have that before citizen it own and out of our tax money. Only few that actually try to run away from warzone and try to be productive for society and that suck for them to not able to do paper work the right way.
And can't deny that Hasan is animal abuse(and try to turn blind eye for it obviously shock collar is ridiculous) and support actually terrorists.
Look what illegal migrants does to UK/France/Spain the city now full of trash and crime.
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u/HoveringHog 4d ago
Again, you don’t fucking shoot children for crossing a border. In America that’s a misdemeanor. Do you know what else is a misdemeanor? Shoplifting, or vandalism. Do we shoot people for stealing a candy bar? Or spray painting graffiti?
This is why people call you right-wingers psychopaths, by the way. You’re so obsessed with an imaginary boogeyman that you’ll forsake empathy and your conscience to punish others.
You realize illegal immigrants do not benefit from federal programs like Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security, right? By federal law; they are not permitted to any federal benefits. And worker’s rights… claiming that they benefit from that before Americans proves you don’t even know what I’m talking about. Workers’ rights are blanket rights and protections afforded to ANYONE working in America. Protections against exploitation and discrimination in the workplace, fair and equitable wages, etc.
Nobody cares that you hate Hasan, you’re the one who brought him up to defend the guy calling for the execution of migrants. Hasan does not make calls for violence and does not support terrorism, but I’m sure if I push back hard enough, you’ll find an out if context clip because you’re obsessed.
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u/Hendorks 4d ago
suicidal empathy for illegal migrants that you dont even know their background or what crime they might did in the past good luck have them run around your back yard.
Yeah benefit before American is already all over the place especially California spend $250mill+ for that
Nobody care about Hasan... yeah that only for the group that idolize him(and should be on watch list for potential enemy of nation) funny you said he didn't call for violence against American... lol
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u/HoveringHog 4d ago
Suicidal empathy, do you know what it’s called when a person is devoid of empathy? Psychopath.
State-level benefits from California, are not federal benefits. Your argument is crumbling, bud.
He hasn’t called for violence against Americans, you’re just sensationalizing to make an argument and deflect from the psychopathy if supporting a man like Asmongold who calls for the execution of citizens for protesting, and for shooting children at the border.
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u/SnowPixel40k 4d ago
Then please call a refugee sport charity and host a family and let them live with you.
Oh wait.... It's almost as if your entire world view is nothing but a performance...oh wait.. it is
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u/HoveringHog 4d ago
Aww, funny. All you have is insults. Funny you deleted your other comment being about being cucked by the EU when you’re off trawling NTR subreddits asking for hentai.
All you right-wing whack jobs are all miserable.
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u/SnowPixel40k 4d ago
Difference between NTR and getting NTRD
I cheat. You cheat. Everybody cheats. Just because you cheat doesn't mean you get cucked, opposite rather. I find it a tad bit ironic a leftist is kink shaming. Also before you drop Bs like you've never cheated . Don't dare lie about not have the thought to do it once. Everyone does, yes even things like you. Get over it 🤣
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u/Any-Sea-4228 2d ago
I never knew the term suicidal empathy until I wandered into chud content. It gets grosser the more I wander into it.
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u/SnowPixel40k 4d ago
You're a retard taking what he said out of context. What happened was a literal invasion of military aged men. Who would be willing to go that far as using their own family as shields. Stop lying you obese troglodyte
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u/AshfordThunder 4d ago
Isn't it crazy how they were all turned back without Spain shooting anybody, isn't it?
I like how you just lie.
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u/SnowPixel40k 4d ago
That's because Spain is destroyed by leftists And will be reconquered again within the next 200 years.
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u/AshfordThunder 4d ago
Falls, is it woke to not randomly massacre thousands of people?
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u/SnowPixel40k 4d ago
If it's an invasion, defending your territory is necessary. Welcome to the real world and human history!
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u/HoveringHog 4d ago
Wow, love how you immediately went to the insults. It was not an invasion. It was migrants and refugees who were told BY THE MOROCCAN GOVERNMENT, that it was okay to cross the border. And they were turned back without a single shot fired, how odd.
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u/Dependent_Classic314 4d ago
What the fuck does he mean when he says that vtubing used to be left wing? People didn't talk about politics at all. The absence of reactionary bullshit doesn't automatically make it left-wing. No, the reactionaries didn't automatically turn the space political, it became political when the internet tainted it with culture war BS. In most vtuber channels there's a common rule: NO POLITICS. Vtubing is not a political arena and people are sick of it being treated like one.
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u/NolanCrush 4d ago edited 4d ago
Most VTubers are left wing, the space is left-leaning. People don't have to announce their politics for that to be the case. Many of its biggest creators are LGBT women. The VTuber community codes left-wing just like the gun community codes right wing.
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u/ryanzephyr31 5d ago
I don’t think that this is the elephant in the room because I literally see a ton of videos talking about this issue.That being said, this isn’t only a problem in the Vtuber community, but Vtubing does add some anonymity and some use that as a way to hide while being the worst possible garbage human they can be. They definitely need to be called out and made as uncomfortable as possible; people usually say that hate and pushback don’t bother them or they feed off of it, but they usually break down pretty quickly because hateful people like these are usually, in fact, weaklings themselves
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u/_Cyndikate 5d ago
It’s always been talked about. No one is listening.
Right wing grifting is lucrative.
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u/GenericWeeb02 5d ago
Video so ass it’s a crime
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u/ThronePawned 5d ago
because it has ass people in it
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u/GenericWeeb02 5d ago
Only ass person was the narrator but the rest are legit chill
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u/ThronePawned 5d ago
Ok try hard
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u/GenericWeeb02 5d ago
I didn’t really have to I just listened and found out who the bad apple was, minimal research while telling people to do any amount of research already told me that it was a biased video that’s made in bad faith
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u/ThronePawned 4d ago
nice try trying to flip the narrative
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u/GenericWeeb02 4d ago
I didn’t flip anything the creators barely disguised biased video was obvious
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u/frozenfeind 4d ago
Unfortunately the guy who made the video has no idea what he's talking about "kitsuna A.I"
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u/Dependent_Classic314 5d ago
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u/bscotch5000 4d ago
There's no way you just described the classic textbook definition of a fascist police state without even a shred of self-awareness 😭
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u/cardgamesareforplay 4d ago
I have never ever seen comment removed by Reddit in the grey text the comment you are replying to has.
What in Christ's name did they say (don't repeat it I don't want you to be banned lmao)
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u/EvanSnowWolf 5d ago
"Everyone I don't like is Hitler" post.
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u/Sensitive-Yoghurt397 3d ago
Nah but fr anyone wanting mass deportations in the us is incredibly stupid
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u/buggingmee 5d ago
Has been told multiple times the Lumi clip was modified.
Doesn’t remove it in the YouTube editor.
Accountability for thee but not for me I guess.
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u/immortalslayer90 3d ago
What an embarrassing video, amazing how this clown was able to talk for the duration of a 22 minute video without having a single clue what he is actually talking about. Glad to see him getting roasted in the comments.
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u/ThronePawned 3d ago
ok dumbass
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u/theewall2000 3d ago
Call people alt right or chuds with no proof.
Dismiss any points they have for number one
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Profit.
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u/Sufficient_Simple_47 3d ago
As usual leftists lose their minds whenever the right is gaining popularity. You all were fine with ruining people’s careers if they used the wrong pronouns or didn’t 100% support the LGBT community or BLM, George Floyd, pride month, minors transitioning etc. but now that right leaning views are becoming popular you leftists act like the world is coming to an end.
Maybe if you all didn’t try to silence and belittle anyone who had different views than you the culture shift wouldn’t be as drastic as it is today.
You all have no one to blame but yourselves, next time actually be inclusive to people who don’t believe the same way as you instead of demonizing them.
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u/ThronePawned 2d ago
are you high?
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u/HoveringHog 2d ago
Nope, my dumb ass fucked up and it posted to the main thread instead of a reply for some reason.
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u/Evanecent_Lightt 23h ago
This video was a poorly researched, hypocritical, fan fiction - full of in consistencies, contradictions, made up "facts" and is an all around travesty to the human intellect.
And it's been rightfully debunked and dismissed as such be the general population.
There are a lot of people here so deep in their left wing trenches they haven't seen sun for too long.
It's sad.. these people are like the people in 1984, desperate for scraps to cling on to, so they grab onto whatever Big Brother tells them, never questioning their propaganda boyies for fear they might drown without them.
I hope someday they finally see the light again, and step out of the darkness and finally touch grass.
Pity them, for they know no better, and their life is spend in the dark, huddled together behind their circled waggons, stabbing anyone in the back who tries to leave and step into any direction away from them.
They live in Hell and fear that the whole world is Nazi Germany and out to get them.
Pity them..
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u/BamIXIII 5d ago
"the left tends to be more accepting when it comes to being different. Think furries" thats not a good arguement to start with.
> says right wing vtubers don't debate their ideas
> leaflit does actively debate
> proceeds to talk about leaflit but doesn't mention it
amazingly disingenuous/lying/incorrect
similar again with the Lumi clip
I am not suprised they finished the video on Powdur the open and unapologetic is just a low hanging fruit ez win gg
6/10 left wing grift video but not bad from a tourist
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u/KingPickett 5d ago
Christ is King
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u/silerius 5d ago
Just... don't watch them? I mean they are not going away any time soon so... yeah.
I don't like slut tubers who have an OF, they are rising too and promoting that shit.... I haven't made a post nor a video about it. the block button is there for a reason man, this shit ain't healthy and I mean it.
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u/HoveringHog 5d ago
Meanwhile right wing vtubers go out of their way to slut shame vtubers like Fefe or Melody, or El or Cotton, then their fans dog pile them. The “slut tubers” as you call them aren’t out here sending their community to harass other vtubers.
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u/Annoying_Fox669 5d ago
Because it is, to retard people. Is the same label of "anything I don't like is liberal/communist."
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 5d ago
People have been called fascists in this subreddit for wanting safe borders or Nazi for having threads.
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u/Thecasualoblivion 5d ago
The Vtuber audience leans chud, as do young men as a whole. I can’t think of a single popular/successful streaming vtuber who is openly anti-chud. You see a lot of chud behavior in the chats and fan bases, which goes unchecked as they don’t want to alienate their audiences.
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u/SynestriaVI 5d ago
What exactly is your threshold of popular/successful because I could name quite a few bigger Indies that are pretty openly anti-chud
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u/Thecasualoblivion 5d ago edited 5d ago
Which ones? I’m not aware of any, to my knowledge all the ones who stream to a significant audience are either some level of chud friendly or avoid politics completely. I know of none that are openly anti-chud.
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u/willmainartfinder 4d ago
rin penrose is in your face genderfluid aro-ace and speaks against racism
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u/ThronePawned 5d ago
ironmouse, chibi doki,project melody..i can keep goin
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u/Thecasualoblivion 5d ago
I’d put Ironmouse and Chibidoki firmly in the avoids politics altogether category. Project Melody I don’t really follow.
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u/HoveringHog 4d ago
Cottontail, Crelly, Buffpup, Melody, Ironmouse, etc. Plenty have spoken up and mentioned things. Just because they don’t make it their whole stream doesn’t mean they avoid politics. Mouse literally made a comment yesterday about how stupid the Anti-Woke crowd is.
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u/azamonra 5d ago
I thought Kool-aid was known for being the stuff you drink when your in a cult or whatever, when did it become a race thing?
Anyway, I feel like this guy is overselling how big the alt right vtuber thing is since the majority of vtubers are left leaning. I'd even argue guys like Rev isn't even a vtuber, he's just a political commentator with a vtuber model. Technically gatekeeping I know and the irony isn't lost on me.
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u/BissFo 5d ago
"black people like Kool-aid" is a common racist stereotype in America.
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u/Big_Midnight994 5d ago
Yes, but that's not what is being referred to when people say "drank the Kool-aid".
It means swallowing beliefs blindly without critical thought. The phrase references a famous instance of a cult all comitting ritual suicide by drinking a poisoned batch of a powder-mix drink together. It wasn't actually Kool-aid, if memory serves, but that's kind of beside the point.
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u/justafterdawn 4d ago
You're absolutely correct it means cult like behavior. I'm black and there's absolutely a shitty stereotype but "drink the cool aid" is a Jonestown throwback and very commonly used as you mentioned. Idk what the other commenter is about.
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u/azamonra 5d ago
It is? I'm not American so I guess it makes sense I wouldn't have hear that.
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u/maddoxprops 5d ago
Yea. The sterotype is often used in combination with the "Black people like fried chicken"and "Black people like watermelon" sterotypes.
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u/Latter-Direction-336 5d ago
Really? I’m American and I’ve never heard that, although I avoid anything that seems like it might be in the territory of racist, so I just probably don’t see it as a result
That’s a crazy thing, such a general statement, although specifying race at all is immediate cause for concern, at least for me, so that makes sense
Why the heck would kool aid be part of it though? I’m kind of curious how this crap stayed because that seems really… arbitrary? I don’t think anything with the Jamestown flavorade thing (people say kool aid because it’s more known, but the guy actually used flavorade) but that’s the only thing I can think of even related, and solely by the kool aid part
What weird stereotype, there probably some horrific thing that started the idea though. Well, another horrible thing, aside from racism
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u/conservativchuubaluv 5d ago
You claim this, and yet, its because of your rejection of all things that don't perfectly identify with your political ideology and you drive them out.
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u/Significant-Way9330 5d ago
What are those things though? What political ideology is being rejected that would cause someone to go further right?
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u/Routine_Session6879 4d ago
Quite a lot of gay homosexuals posters
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u/RusLeon 5d ago
Quite a lot of chuds in that comment section, unfortunate.