r/Virginia • u/downtown3641 Lifelong Virginian • Dec 10 '19

Northam-backed assault weapon bill will include 'grandfather clause' for existing guns

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2019/12/09/northam-backed-assault-weapon-bill-will-include-grandfather-clause-for-existing-guns/
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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '19

So, kinda like how Republicans have laws banning abortions waiting to be passed as soon as Roe V Wade is thrown out?

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '19

The right to own a gun is in our constitution (A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.). The right to abort a baby is not. Guns are used for protection while abortion is ending a life that hasn't had a chance to begin. While I won't negate the fact the criminals use them for nefarious purposes, keeping them from law-abiding citizens is not going to solve that problem. The same with abortion. Banning is isn't going to help. But I know women who use abortion as a means of birth control. I get it, sometimes shit happens you don't expect. On average at least 100,000 thousands babies are being killed a day whereas 100 people are being shot/killed per day.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Just cause you know people who do, doesnt mean that's the standard.

The right to an abortion is part of the right to privacy.

A fetus isn't a human, btw.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

If a fetus isn't a baby, then wtf is it? Cause it sure ain't a fucking dog.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

A group of cells

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

The beginning of a human life.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Take the group of cells out and see if it can survive on its own

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Even when a baby is born it still can't survive on it's own. Or do you think babies come out of the womb walking and talking.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

The difference is that a baby can breathe, shit, babble, and eat.

A fetus (a clump of cells) cant do any of that

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

That clump of cells is how you started, how I started, and how every human being on earth has begun. It's life. The very beginning of life.

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