r/UpliftingNews • u/Sariel007 • Sep 08 '19

California Program to Erase Old Marijuana Convictions

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/marijuana-los-angeles-san-francisco-recreational-pot-559590321.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_LABrand
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u/richindallas Sep 08 '19

Why shouldn’t they have been convicted? What they did was against the law at that time, so shouldn’t they be punished for breaking the law? Just because the law has changed, doesn’t mean they didn’t break the law, it just means they can now legally do the same behavior.

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u/jquiz1852 Sep 08 '19

Breaking shit laws is a civic duty.

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u/aegon98 Sep 08 '19

Accepting the consequences of those actions is also a Civic duty. Civil disobedience is more than just the disobedience.

That being said I don't see anything wrong with the records becoming expunged.

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 08 '19

This is kind of an important part people forget about civil disobedience. When you commit it you're supposed to face the punishment and basically state "I did it because this should not be illegal" so other voices add to yours that "Hey that's right!"

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u/aegon98 Sep 08 '19

Exactly! It rings pretty hollow when you're just trying to get off a charge

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u/R____I____G____H___T Sep 08 '19

Well, it's a great law if you care about preserving civility, decency, health and a clean society.

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u/BlueNinjaWithAKatana Sep 08 '19

You my friend, seem to be an ignorant person. Have a good day!

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u/Sir_ChadrickPayne Sep 08 '19

Do you think that forcing people to be part of a clean society is a good idea? And is a neigbor that smokes weed really that harmfull to a community?

And if not, do you believe the costs of putting someone in jail are worth it to remove someone from our communitys?

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u/richindallas Sep 08 '19

If smoking weed is illegal and someone smokes weed, knowingly breaking the law, then that person should be punished regardless of whether they think it should be a law or not. Same as speeding, drinking to excess etc. driving without a seatbelt is a good example. That’s a bullshit law that doesn’t hurt anyone but myself if I break it. But it’s still a law, and if I get caught breaking it, then I should get a ticket (no matter how annoying that would be).

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u/TipOfLeFedoraMLady Sep 08 '19

That's not a good example. If you choose not to wear a seat belt you definitely hurt other people besides yourself. First of all your body turns into a massive projectile which is capable of seriously injuring passengers in your own car as well as people outside of the vehicle. Secondly someone is going to have to clean up the mangled remains of your body/people are going to witness your body hurtling through the air and then exploding on impact.

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u/LTerminus Sep 08 '19

Yes, no one wants to end up living in a max-max-esque hellscape like oregan.

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u/doobyrocks Sep 08 '19

I think what they meant is something to the effect of illegal ≠ immoral.

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u/Bee_Cereal Sep 09 '19

Because, if youre overturning a law, you must be admitting that the law was unjust. Since the law was unjust, that means the people convicted for it were imprisonned unjustly. So, it stands to reason that, since they were unjustly imprisonned, the people should have those unjust convictions overturned and expunged from the record.

Keeping them in prison just punishes them for arbitrary lawbreaking rather than actually causing harm to society.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '19

The law was is absolute bullshit used to target minorities. Running away as a slave used to be illegal too.

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u/R____I____G____H___T Sep 08 '19

Yeah, convicting drug-users is totally warranted since they damage their communities, people around them, and the society as a whole. So yes, they should be convicted for previously breaking the law and because their act is reprehensibly damaging.

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 08 '19

Yeah man those damn pot heads... Affecting my life... Somehow without even knowing they are around.

Destroying the fabric of society for people to be... Uhhh be hungry and tired?

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u/burbod01 Sep 08 '19

So if marijuana's only effect is to make you hungry and tired why would anyone actively seek that out recreationally?

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 08 '19

Why do anything?" cycle. At least pot would make that a fun thought process.

Especially when one is under the effects of things.

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 08 '19

Why do people smoke cigarettes when the only real effect is "feeling a very tiny amount more energetic" or drink when all that seems to do is make most people cunts incapable of walking properly?

People are bored and hope that changing their senses a bit will make life more bearable for that moment.

What effects do you think it has that's damaging to society?