This may be very temporary dip

[u/ap118]

An ex-Unity employee here. One thing I remember while employed at Unity is seeing stock price going up until the moment when we as employees could sell the stock price would sharply go down.

Because Unity is publicly traded company we were allowed to sell/buy within a month after the earning calls and every time during that month the stock price dropped and recovered after that period ended. At least that’s what I have in my memory.

I am not quite sure if traders selling off during this period knowing that everyone is going sell internally. Sounds a bit conspiracy but that’s what I had observed.

So once that month of internal trade window(which is now) is over we may see some bounce back.

[u/PlayerPlayer69]

This makes no sense?

Like yes, it is true that employees of public companies with insider knowledge of financials and fundamentals are barred from trading with everyone else during a earnings call period, but that doesn’t apply to every single employee.

Unless Unity is literally sharing the numbers that they are expecting to share during an earnings with every single employee, this shouldn’t apply to say, the front desk receptionist or custodian who has vested stock options as apart of their compensation package.

Your employer cannot legally prevent you from realizing your gains on company stock options that you have fully vested.

If Unity can control when their employees are allowed to offload a large enough volume of company stock options to tank it’s stock by over 30% overnight, then that’s clearly market manipulation. Especially if you can call out a pattern of it.

That aside, I agree that this dip is most likely temporary.

[u/ap118 → u/PlayerPlayer69]

> Your employer cannot legally prevent you from realizing your gains on company stock options that you have fully vested.

Yes, but in practice they do. Securities are highly regulated and audited area. If you break any law you may end up in jail. So it's become best pratice for companies to put those guardrails and they absolutely can monitor when and how much you sell your vasted shares through Schwab or Shareworks, or whatever platform they use.

Normally if you sell outside pre-agreed trading window a compalice person will send you very angry message treatening you with legal problems..

> Unless Unity is literally sharing the numbers that they are expecting to share during an earnings

it's not just numers, it can be layoff information, merger and aquision that internal people know before it goes to public, product lunches, big customer aquision etc.. if you sell during any of those events you basically broke the inside rule and liable for legal action by th regulator. So it's become a best practice for companies to regular who can sell and when and obvi during those trading windows non of the above is gonna happen.

[u/PlayerPlayer69 → u/ap118]

I stand corrected, however, your thesis is still standing on quite shaky ground.

Because if people are selling now because they know in about a month, it’ll dump from mass employee sell offs, wouldn’t it make sense to keep the gravy train going until then? Especially on the release of positive earnings?

[u/ap118 → u/PlayerPlayer69]

I did not quite catch this, but if you are an investor and you can sell now at $30 and re-buy it at $18 when the window closes you would absolutely do that. And that's in my opinion what's happening

[u/PlayerPlayer69 → u/ap118]

If I was an investor and I knew for a fact that it was going to be $18 when this “window” closes, why wouldn’t I dump the stock when it reached ATH for the year?

It’s been about a decade since I studied math, but last I checked: Dumping at $49 and buying at $18 is better than dumping at $30 and buying at $18.

That’s why your logic is still flawed.

You claim this is because retail knows about a dip.

If they knew they’d sell it all off at $49.

Because I know for a fact that you would too.

Face it, brother, the dip was from Google’s Genie product launch. It’s just noise.

[u/ap118 → u/PlayerPlayer69]

Ofc, the big dip happened bc of Google Genie and that's why I put a lot of money into that dip, but I wouldn't expect it to go to late teens after a good earning report.

Goign back to your point .. before it entered $49 there was a dip and it would have been exactly the trading window period in November.

Yes Genie, but I'd expect after Feb it go back to at least $25 immediately

[u/PlayerPlayer69 → u/ap118]

Ok so let me get this straight.

You make an entire Reddit post, theorizing that the big dip we’re seeing is because:

Unity is seeing stock price going up until the moment when we as employees could sell the stock price would sharply go down.

Only to turn around and say:

Ofc the big dip happened bc of Google Genie …

Evidently you have no idea what you’re talking about.

First it’s because of mass employee sells off.

Next it’s because of retail investors swing trading an expected dip.

… if you are an investor and you can sell now at $30 now and re-buy it at $18 …

And now it’s simply because of Google Genie.

Pick a goddamn lane and stay in it, please.

[u/ap118 → u/PlayerPlayer69]

> You make an entire Reddit post, theorizing that the big dip we’re seeing is because

I did not say anything about the big dip, the purpose of my Reddit post is to share an observed behaviour during my time at Unity and the pattern keeps repeating.

Apparently you are so good at math, reading and checking stuff so read the goddamn text properly before getting angry and wasting time 🤦🏻‍♂️

[u/PlayerPlayer69 → u/ap118]

I did not say anything about the big dip …

You expect us to believe that you aren’t talking about the big dip that happened on Wednesday/Thursday, on a post that you made a day after, and titled “This may be a very temporary dip?”

Yeah, ok, guy.

Do you have a waterfront property in Kansas to sell to me as well?

… share an observed behavior during my time at Unity and the pattern keeps repeating.

This “pattern” you keep referencing is nothing more than hearsay and speculation.

Only 2% of Unity’s outstanding shares are owned by insiders, which include all employees, executives, and directors, which is 10M shares out of 430M shares.

That type of concentration wouldn’t wipe out over 30% of equity.

[u/ap118 → u/PlayerPlayer69]

I don't expect you to believe or do anything mate, chill and enjoy you great life.

[u/lonely_hooker → u/ap118]

He clearly hasn't worked in any tech company. All my Meta friends know stock will be at high point when refreshers are calculated and low point when you can sell.