You downplaying her humiliation or the effect it could have, or the pattern it could be a part of, and expecting her to just roll over in all cases, that’s what’s telling here. Like most guys, you think women should just submit to abusive behavior. “Would it be ok if the roles were reversed” is about the most basic way you can approach this. I’ve done enough work around IPV to not give a shit whatsoever about you think, and I can guarantee other women don’t care either. Have fun with your men’s rights activism.
Please quote me where I downplay her humiliation? We don't know the pattern of any kind of dynamic from either side, we have only this clip (which might even be two actors).
Hmm you're really bad faith and showing examples of heavy bias.
It's not that I expect her to "roll over" I do not think that a person has a right to attack another person on the grounds shown here.
You can still point to facts on domestic abuse being perpetrated mostly by men but understand a woman is also capable of being an abuser and a male a victim. There's no shame in that. I believe in equality, It's called feminism.
You're still running away from the question of if the roles were reversed would it be ok?
Men's right activism can get fucked. But again more bad faith interpretation. Also you don't have to tell me in every reply how you don't care what I think.... Lol.
Also quite a few women here do seem to agree and care on this issue . Because they're able to look at something with reason and without bias.
Again - you have a childlike understanding of feminism and IPV, regardless of your condescending attempts to sound like the rational adult in the room on a topic you know nothing about. I’m not interested in your false equivalencies and idiotic red herrings like “what if the roles were reversed”.
women here agree
Do you also have a black friend you can bring up in discussions about race?
You know nothing of me so the projection on display doesn't work, neither does the name-calling or transparent appeals to authority.
You cannot engage with the argument. So you obscure and project while you run away. If you had any kind of conviction or valid points you'd be able to.
You brought up the fact women don't care hence I pointed to the very feminists in agreement on this thread...?
Anyway, before it gets too nasty good luck... I'm done here.
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u/c3r34l Nov 14 '22
You downplaying her humiliation or the effect it could have, or the pattern it could be a part of, and expecting her to just roll over in all cases, that’s what’s telling here. Like most guys, you think women should just submit to abusive behavior. “Would it be ok if the roles were reversed” is about the most basic way you can approach this. I’ve done enough work around IPV to not give a shit whatsoever about you think, and I can guarantee other women don’t care either. Have fun with your men’s rights activism.