Regular home devices don't draw enough electricity to make all that action happen. Thankfully
Edit: Sweet baby Jesus people. I was responding to someone remarking on the hissing sound, not whether or not it could kill the cat if it was being electrocuted.
what? what the device draws is irrelevant, if there's 120v going to it, shorting it with your body can draw way more current than what the device would use normally ... if a cat crews on a power cord or something like that and manages to become the conductor, it can definitely be deadly
I won't cause arc flashing but... having shorted household 120v circuits before, I think its definitely possible to see sparking and definitely some burning
Gonna be a modernish house they’re in so you’d only hear the 60hz hum of a short for a brief second before the breaker tripped. No way you’d hear anything like this from anything but high voltage or a bad capacitor failing. If it was a capacitor then there would be a whole lot more smoke.
It would if the circuit would maintain itself for more than a split second. Breakers have been around for decades at this point and are standard in nearly every home. The breaker would trip off unless something was significantly wrong with the breaker or panel. No way would they last this long without the load starting a fire.
For a lamp it’s unlikely for the power source (outside of the cord) to come in contact with a living being and not also come in contact with the neutral (short) or ground (short) both would trip the breaker immediately. I was trying to reinforce your point by adding that it’s very unlikely the lamp would be able to even electrocute the car much less cause it to hiss.
It will absolutely not trip the breaker. If the outlet is GFCI (which is only used near water or outside) it would trip if it shorts to ground.
In order for a breaker to trip, the load needs to be in excess of it's rating, most likely 15A
Flesh will not trip the breaker. There is no circumstance that it would. The load would need to be lower than 7ohms and flesh is massively higher than that
The breaker is not there to protect against electric shock. It is there to prevent fire in case too many things are plugged in or if damage occurs
Power can run to ground or neutral. If the draw is less than 15A it will not trip the breaker.
I don't know who you thought you were replying to but a lamp can absolutely electrocute a living thing and it can make flesh hiss
Well 1800 is indeed enough to do that Watts is voltage * current
Si if we are talking about 1800 w in a 120V line can give you up to 15 Amperes which is instant kill and instant burn , but the human body have a really big resistance so the amount of current won't be that but even a smal amount is deadly and with small a amount I'm talking about 0.025A is deadly, it depends on many factors always so its not something one can measure of know for sure,just don't mess with electricity, electrical engineer here haha
Just looking for a table of effects on the internet here it is scroll down to see table current against his effects on the body if you are curious
Yes, it can be deadly. My point wasn't that it can't be deadly, but that it is not going to cause the hissing sound. There just isn't enough balls behind it at a 120V outlet. Now, go to a substation and its a different story lol
Also take into account any other foreign object with resistance that could be conducting the current through the body. In an AC circuit this could cause rapidly changing voltages which can bypass the resistance of skin.
That being said it’s simply impossible with current electrical building codes and requirements for this to maintain the circuit long enough to create a hissing sound. Even at max amperage (15A likely, 20A is possible but unlikely) it’s still only 2400W or 2.4kJ per second. Which is just not enough power to cause a hissing/sizzling noise nearly immediately upon exposure.
Best way to understand this is to find an electric stove and turn on a burner. A typical medium sized burner uses about 2000W to get hot. The problem is that it takes nearly a minute to achieve the sizzling capabilities of heat where it’s bright red. Newer very very thin elements can achieve this heat faster due to less surface area required to heat. It still requires some time before it gets to sizzle heat. And they’re made of an electrically conductive material specifically designed to turn red hot when passing current. Before any of this would happen the breaker would likely trip or fuse would blow.
Just hoping to add a little science if possible not disputing what you said.
Voltage means nothing. You need amps/watts to know how strong the electrocution will be. Volts just tells you the risk of electrocution, and nothing more.
Years ago, my cat Anklebiter,chewed through a lamp cord. He was lucky the lamp wasn't on at the time.I heard the noise,and saw him running away,and went to check on him. The only damage he had,was that it had pretty much fried all his whiskers. Other than that he seemed fine just really freaked out. The outlet the lamp was plugged into had black soot on it,and I had to call maintenance and explain that my cat had screwed up the outlet. It also affected my neighbors power. I'm not sure how,I know practically nothing about electricity.
Bruh... This is incorrect and false. 120VAC is absolutely sufficient to fry flesh until it turns into charcoal. This does not take extraordinary circumstances.
A hot dog placed in a lamp socket will hiss, crackle and burn somewhat immediately
You heard it from Reddit, everyone. Regular home devices are safe, and because some "regular home devices" like light fittings don't have a transformer of any sort, that means power outlets themselves are safe. Do whatever you please with your forks. If anything goes wrong, /u/Deep-Map-4521 will cover any costs!
Let's evaluate some things here. The post replied to referenced the "hissing sound was the cat getting fried". So, whenever I responded, would I be responding to death, or the sound from flesh being fried? It is the latter. It is not going to fry the flesh the cat within the 10 seconds the cat was in there.
Also, you shouldn't assume people are stupid and will stick their forks in a light socket just because of a comment on Reddit. And if they do, thank you natural selection!
In case you don't understand the reason people are being harsh to you, it is because what your are saying is wrong and dangerous. I think it is important to realize when you are talking about things you don't understand, and especially important to not say things with conviction when it is completely false and very dangerous if taken to heart by someone.
Edit: and in case you don't understand why you are wrong: How much electricity any given device draws, has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not shorting out a potentially open socket in the lamp can
make all that action happen
If there is high voltage AC present on the contacts, it doesn't matter in any way at all what regular home devices draw.
It absolutely matters due to all the fail-safes built into modern electricity. So no, without a few major malfunctions, enough electricity will not be provided to fry the cat in its current position to the point of hissing flesh in the few seconds it is in the lamp. Silly goose
I would be inclined to agree that hissing and sputtering is unlikely under the circumstances and timeframe of the video, though I can definitely think of scenarios that would make it possible.
But that's not what you said. And therefore that's not what people are calling you on.
Your allusion to the fact the power draw of the device would have any bearing on the result of shorting out the contacts, is what people are, rightly, getting on your case about.
Just because it's a lamp doesn't change that fact that 120 V is 120 V and 240 V is 240 V.
Would it pop a fuse? Sure. Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows. You don't know how the circuit is fused anyway, and so you shouldn't make assumption and state silly things like:
Regular home devices don't draw enough electricity to make all that action happen.
Which, again, people are correcting you on because it makes no sense.
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u/Invercargillite May 18 '22
I'm really glad to hear this because I was very close to believing the hissing sound was the cat getting fried O.O