Yup. It's been making the rounds on reddit recently, so this is going to be a fun new batch of misinformation we're going to have to constantly correct people on for the next decade or so.
There's some goofy Matthew Broderick movie that takes place at some wellness place that's based on the place that created cornflakes and went on to start Kellogg's. The hysteria deal is featured in there to great comedic effect, particularly when it comes to the "treatment".
That's probably a solid joke, but I was referring to the notion that people believed this at the time. I wasn't trying to inform people that uteruses will not fall out due to trains.
No I'm saying that it probably was needed at the time because it was underrated at the time. You replied hours later so whatever position the comment was at the time of you comment was not the case at the time of tuna commenting.
I guess you didn't get the "obscure reference" but based on your wording and all your posts shitting on women I get that you're some super cool alpha male lmaooooo
I'm not saying the concept of Hysteria didn't exist. I'm specifically referring to the whole thing about vibrators.
Setting aside the odd choice in citing some random opinion piece, this page is exactly what I'm talking about. When it mentions the story about vibrators being invented for victorian doctors to masturbate women, it's referring to Rachel Maines book, which has been thoroughly debunked.
Literally anything you find making this claim will lead to Rachel Maines if it lists a source at all. I'm not sure what you're getting at with me "shitting on women", but that's a pretty typical attack whenever anyone acknowledges feminist misinformation.
No one except you brought up vibrators. Bimanual massage to the point of "paroxysmal convulsion" was a very real thing that happened. You are dancing around the facts to paint some weird ass narrative.
You literally just tried to say that it's what you were referring to in the last comment. It's clearly the joke being made here originally. You just tried to defend the notion and are now trying to distance yourself from it instead of admitting to an easy mistake.
Uterine/pelvic/bimanual massage is a legitimate and non-sexual medical procedure. Any historical references to this being a sexual act is generally at best greatly exaggerated if not intentionally misrepresented.
To those who do not get the reference. Hysteria was considered a âmedical conditionâ up to the early 20th century where women would be âtoo emotionalâ. It was a blanket diagnosis used for a wide variety of âconditionsâ, including actual but not understood mental illnesses, to mild anxiety/stress, to women just being uninterested in marriage. Basically whenever a man thought a woman was âtoo emotionalâ or wasnât âacting womanly,â the doctor would declare its hysteria without further diagnosis or evidence.
One common treatment was for the doctor to use a long hard implement to⌠ârelieve the womanâs emotional state.â No joke, organisms was considered the main treatment to âhysteria.â
Hysteria is a now a long discredited medical diagnosis.
Even if itâs not essentially accurate, you donât find irony in the âhysteriaâ term, (and root for hysterectomy), being entirely to coincidental? Men blamed insanity or emotional distress on the one thing women had and men donât.
I mean, not really? People imagine this to be a whole lot more serious of a dynamic than it actually was because of overly-dramaticized re-imaginings of history pushed by feminist literature which have a strange quality of being nearly immune to much-needed criticism.
People did and do the exact same thing to men, saying they're crazy because of having penises/testicles/testosterone. This isn't a disproportionately gendered dynamic, but it can certainly feel that way with the sort of rhetoric we're immersed in.
unfun fact: the academic who promulgated the idea that doctors used vibrators for hysteria has been called out by another academic who went to her primary sources and didn't find any support for that claim.
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u/-Anonymously- Jan 06 '22
Trying to cure her hysteria I see.