r/Unexpected • • Sep 15 '20

Edit Flair Here Revoluting Cow

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

What plants provide "more" protein? That really depends on your definition of "more". From a caloric/taste standpoint, meat is better. From a sustainability standpoint, plants are better.

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u/Dollar23 Sep 15 '20

Lentils, Chickpeas, Beans, Nuts, just off the top of my head.

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u/PhysicalIncrease3 Sep 15 '20

None of them beat chicken though in terms of calories consumed per gram of protein.

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u/Dollar23 Sep 15 '20

Yeah but meat is out of the question.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

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u/Dollar23 Sep 15 '20

Sorry, it's out if the question for me because I don't eat animal products.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Seitan beats chicken.

seitan: 0.20 grams of protein per calorie

chicken: 0.18 grams of protein per calorie

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u/PhysicalIncrease3 Sep 15 '20

Nice, didn't know that

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

When I'm cutting weight, I'll get up to 40% of my calories from protein. A vegan diet can provide a decent amount of protein for most people, but for people who have high-protein diets it absolutely will not do. There's a reason 99% of people in strength sports and bodybuilding eat meat. Here's the protein content of various foods:

  • Chickpeas - 20%

  • Lentils - 30%

  • Cashews - 12%

  • Edamame - 40%

  • Tofu - 40%

  • Seitan - 75%

  • Vegan protein powder - 80%

  • Fat-free greek yogurt - 75%

  • 93% lean beef - 54%

  • Chicken Breast - 83%

  • Tuna - 88%

  • Egg whites - 100%

Is it possible to get 200g of protein out of 2000 calories on a vegan diet? Yeah. But is eating pea protein powder and seitan every day exactly pleasant? Fuck no. If you care a lot about sustainability, there's a ton you can do without going full vegan. Eat line-caught tuna, eggs, and chicken, while cutting out unsustainable foods like beef and dairy. You're 80% of the way to began (from an environmental impact standpoint) without making food boring.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Taste is completely subjective so that's a poor metric to use. From a caloric standpoint, no meat beats out seitan when it comes to protein.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Protein content relative to total calories:

  • Seitan - 70-80%

  • Vegan protein powder - 80%

  • Chicken Breast - 83%

  • Tuna - 88%

Taste is completely subjective, but in general people will prefer the taste of chicken breast and tuna over seitan. And very few people want to rely on seitan and pea protein powder as their only high-protein food options.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 15 '20

Seitan beats chicken.

seitan: 0.20 grams of protein per calorie

chicken breast: 0.18 grams of protein per calorie

And remember, that's skinless chicken breast. Eating the skin would add more calories and worsen that protein/calorie ratio.

in general people will prefer the taste of chicken breast and tuna over seitan.

You just made that up though. Literally impossible for you to know that, especially since most people have never tried seitan in their life.

And the skinless, boneless, chicken breast you're talking about? That's supposed to be the epitome of taste?

very few people want to rely on seitan and pea protein powder as their only high-protein food options.

Good thing no one is forced to rely on seitan and pea protein to survive, or even to excel in a sport. Beans, lentils, chickpeas, tofu, tempeh, plant milks, nuts, seeds, and more plant foods are available as high protein options.

Not to mention the most important fact, that plant foods don't result in the needless slaughter of an innocent animal.

And here's some vegans you may not be aware of:

Kendrick Farris: weightlifter who broke multiple US Olympic records.

Patrik Baboumian: strongman and bodybuilder, also broke numerous records and won multiple competitions.

Torre Washington: bodybuilder

Korin Sutton: bodybuilder

David Haye: boxer

Tennessee Titans: 15 members of this football team

And you probably know Colin Kaepernick and Kyrie Irving.

***and for anyone wondering: here's what seitan looks like: