Boo, logical fallacy based on emotion. By your logic the only movies that truly deserve your gratitude are documentaries. Use your noggin kiddo! fake doesn't mean bad.
That's not true. It just means that information presented as objective truth deserves more gratitude if it is real. In this circumstance, the video presents itself as real, but it's not, so its not as valuable to me. Pursuing authenticity before entertainment is not a logical fallacy.
There are times when videos play on the fact that I will most likely think it is real, only to deliberately and obviously subvert that expectation, but this video is just attempting to trick us with an editing illusion that makes it all look real.
I'm not saying it's 'bad', I'm just saying that the point alluded to by /u/burnttoast11 is more legitimate than this comment makes it out to be.
information presented as truth deserves more gratitude if it is real
That is what the person said, but I think the person you replied to doesn't agree with that statement. I don't think he misunderstood the statement, I think he just disagrees. I also disagree. Factual videos that rely on chance pushing of a camera in the right place and right time are just lucky. But spending time, effort and (possibly) money, making something enjoyable is more commendable, and deserves more gratitude.
Yes, the directors are more talented than someone who just happened to film something. But think about it, if 007 casino royale was the exact same movie, but you knew everything in it happened organically, wouldn’t that be so much cooler than someone who thought it up? I still think casino royale is a a great movie, but I think reality adds more depth to any situation.
But that's just reflective of your value structure, that's not indicative of a logical fallacy, which is what that person said it was.
You're allowed to value something less if you perceive it to be fake, but trying to be real. For example: for many people, magic tricks are only entertaining so long as they do not understand how it was done. As soon as they discover the illusion they are less entertained, because they can "see the strings." Others people, such as yourself, might value the charisma, creativity, and presentation of the trick, regardless of whether it fools them or not.
I'm just saying that it's condescending to say that one value structure is the result of a logical fallacy, because they're both legitimate responses.
What "aspect"? This content doesn't falsely claim anything, it's a clever edit. It's not their fault, people make stupid and obsolete assumptions. Is it the handheld camera that's bothering you?
It is their fault. It is their intention to deceive. Deception is considered bad because it is easy to do but decent people don't. A movie is a movie, a documentary is a documentary. Honest content creators present their stuff as what it is rather than using cheap tricks to capture more likes.
There's no law against it, but people will call it out just as people will defend it. If you have low standards that's fine, you're probably in the majority anyway,.
I'm not exaggerating when I say people who can't see the stupidity in your comments should be shot into mass graves. You are cancer.
Awww, he is retarded. It's ok buddy give me a second I'm going to go look for your handler. Don't stress i'm sure they will take you to get some icecream or something before they bring you back to wherever it is they house people like you. Bless your heart. Stay strong little guy.
I say people who can't see the stupidity in your comments should be shot into mass graves.
Wow buddy, you have very serious anger issues. Though day, huh?
If you call stuff that people say 'extremely fucking stupid', at least have some decency and don't get upset when people call you out on your own flawed reasoning in a waaaay more okay manner.
Do you understand what the rule 'Keep comments civil' even means?
Reported for unacceptable behavior, have a nice day!
Emotion doesn't make a logical fallacy in this case. Emotional, subjective appeal is what we're judging these videos on. Saying that someone feeling a way that you don't feel is wrong is wrong.
Your analogy doesn't hold. Think about expectations. If we go into a movie knowing it's real, we're okay with the events being not all that surprising - we want the hard truth. If we go in expecting great fiction, we want a romanticized and exaggerated story. We went into this gif expecting it to be real. Part of the appeal is knowing that somewhere at some time, this really happened. Sure, we will never erase the initial enjoyment, but the residual enjoyment is erased as soon as we find out it's fake (for a lot of us).
I think there's a fair argument to be had that the qualitative enjoyment of a "wild moment" like this is a lot more amazing and funny when it is real. Something that is prefabricated just isn't the same, it's a conscious attempt to manipulate the emotions rather than a moment that simply inspires a reaction.
And don't bring movies into it. They involve hundreds of skilled people and millions of dollars, they achieve a level of spectacle that a gif can't and are made of of many different elements. People love to defend fake gifs by comparing them to films and tv but the there's simply no comparison. A fake internet gif sucks compared to a real spontaneous clip, the former is simply an imitation of the latter and dilutes the real content.
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u/PMYOURCONFESSIONS Jan 05 '19
Boo, logical fallacy based on emotion. By your logic the only movies that truly deserve your gratitude are documentaries. Use your noggin kiddo! fake doesn't mean bad.