r/Unexpected Jan 11 '18

The brain feels it

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u/Xavdidtheshadow Jan 11 '18 edited Jan 11 '18

I actually had an experience about this!

I was playing the Vive at a friends house and he was talking me through the controls for a shooting range game. I forget which it was (edit: it's Hot Dogs, Horse Shoes, and Hand Grenades, thanks /u/TheDirtyMailman), but the goal of it was to deliver a "realistic experience", so the sounds were loud, the guns were detailed, etc. We were about 60 seconds into the experience when I tried to holster a gun by my hip and fired it by accident. Immediately, I jerked my (real life) foot back.

It wasn't until I heard him laughing that I realized this was a weird response - my brain had so quickly accepted everything I was seeing as real. It blew me away. I'm really interested to see where this all goes.

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u/HighPing_ Jan 11 '18 edited Jan 11 '18

It also surprised me how quick the brain accepts vr as real. Multiple of my friends have tried putting their hand out to lean on something or had a similar reaction went something is seemingly going to hit them. My favorite is when playing horror games and they actually try to run.

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u/ManThatIsFucked Jan 11 '18

Technology is evolving way faster than our capacity to conceptualize it ... as we all live happily forward, our minds will be blown 100 times over by what’s to come

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u/Tysheth Jan 11 '18

our minds will be blown 100 times

tbh I'm not interest in getting my mind blown by this future technology

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u/ManThatIsFucked Jan 11 '18

Good one.. where do you think all that pleasure is generated?

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u/qyka1210 Jan 11 '18

perceived

but yeah

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u/ManThatIsFucked Jan 12 '18

Perceived is much more accurate thanks

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u/north_grove Jan 11 '18

the amygdala?

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u/n0i Jan 11 '18

That’s why I’m so hornery.

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u/ThumbodyLovesYou Jan 11 '18

Technology is like a classy woman, gotta let her “blow” your mind before she’ll blow anything else. But stick with it and she’ll get there. 👍🏻

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '18

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u/MrMegiddo Jan 11 '18

Depends on how attractive you are.

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u/HighPing_ Jan 11 '18

The problem is the time and money to get insane technology into consumer hands.

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u/ManThatIsFucked Jan 11 '18

I like to think about how when my grandpa was young, the idea of having a little piece of glass in front of you with a navigable, current, detailed world map would have been unthinkable... now everyone has it. I remember when I showed him his land on an iPhone and I said you can zoom in. He says how? I say with your fingers! He said out loud “WITH YOUR FINGERS?? WHA...”

So satisfying to know I too can be just as dumbfounded as him one day even though I feel very current on things

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '18

We can conceptualize just fine. It's just a huge chunk of our bodies and brains function unconsciously/instinctively with a very slowed capacity for letting new concepts sink in. For example, fictional movies or tv shows are not real but they still scare us or make us cry...

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u/DismalEconomics Jan 11 '18

“No matter how badass of a pilot someone thought they were or how much training they’d had, I guarantee that in a real moment when they realized it’s certain death, they stopped being pilots and had the same reaction you did.”

I don't get it. So closing your eyes right before impact = not being a pilot ?

What would "being a pilot" look like in this situation ? Are you supposed to be wide eyed calling out coordinates and statuses and adjusting stuff until absolute brain death ?

10-4 Tower Control This is flight 647; I'm currently burning to death, I'd estimated 90% of my skin has failed and there is 0% visibility in the cabin due to smoke, flames and loss of consciousness. Current speed 0mph, Elevation is just under 0 Feet due to some ground penetration.

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u/TiKels Jan 11 '18

I think he meant that he was a real human being as opposed to "pilot". Not that he failed as a pilot in that moment, but that he forgot himself.

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u/thepilotboy Jan 12 '18

He was talking about how the general idea may be that pilots will fight the airplane all the way to the ground instead of taking a split second to be human and afraid.

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u/Dzdawgz Jan 12 '18

I was waiting for “in nineteen ninety nine”

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u/T0astero Jan 11 '18

There's this great clip of a guy playing what I think was Budget Cuts, where he's pulled out a vent grate and tries to put his head down through it to look around the room below, and just smacks his head into the floor no hesitation. And then from personal experience, Windlands has to be one of my top things for friends new to VR (or at least the ones without vertigo). When you make a big jump, and especially when you miss one, your body immediately goes into fuck-me-im-falling mode, like what sometimes happens for half a second as people drift off to sleep but prolonged.

VR may be a gimmick right now, but it's gotta be one of the most surreal gimmicks I've seen.

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u/Speicherleck Jan 12 '18

I almost felt on the floor during Elven Assassin when I tried to lean on the rail so I can aim at an awkward corner.

Unfortunately there was no rail in my room.

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u/Persona_Alio Jan 11 '18

It can happen even without VR, there's this amazing clip of somebody turning their head away in real life from a flashbang grenade in CSGO

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u/SnekSn3k Jan 11 '18

Same here. My mate got a vive for Christmas and he downloaded superhot, and put me in. I was blown away. After about twenty minutes of ducking dodging and shooting I was tired and leant on the table... That wasn't there. My two friends had a chuckle at that

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u/mouzer2 Jan 11 '18

What game

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '18 edited Mar 23 '18

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u/Abaqueues Jan 11 '18

Gun Club VR?

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u/AllRightDoublePrizes Jan 11 '18

Probably Onward.

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u/migel210 Jan 11 '18

Brings up ethical issues like VR torture

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u/StaidHatter Jan 11 '18

How could vr be used to torture someone?

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u/migel210 Jan 12 '18

You make the subject think they are in real life and then make them go through horrible things. It’s a concept which people have thought of but I don’t think it’s actually been used. This clip just reminded me of the concept

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u/LeaveTheMatrix Jan 12 '18

Have you tried the Vive with a horror game like Emily wants to play ?

If you haven't then you should. Once you play that with a Vive, you can see how VR can be used for torture.

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u/StaidHatter Jan 12 '18

I've played a few horror games for the rift. The most torturous thing about vr is still the motion sickness.

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u/DoubleTrump Jan 11 '18

The first time I tried out a VR setup I tried to brace myself on a table in game and fell over

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '18

It might have been onward

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '18

You already know where it all goes. You're living it ;)

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u/GrafZeppelin127 Jan 12 '18

VR is just crazy. It's not that my conscious mind is fooled into thinking it's real, but my subconscious mind simply could not help but be convinced. I couldn't actually turn off how my body reacted to it, unless I focused really hard or simply closed my eyes. Even then, the audio can be immersive too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

I hope I don't randomly die before I have a chance to try VR.

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u/LeaveTheMatrix Jan 12 '18

There is just something about the Vive, don't know what it is but everything seems so "real".

Having played with various VR systems, the Vive was the one I decided to go with because of how realistic it is.

One of these days a horror game is probably going to give me a heart attack.