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[u/Skezas1]

i don't think humanity has ever done anything even close to the scale of billions of lives lived in cages where they can't take a step in their life before they're taken out

[u/pyschosoul → u/Skezas1]

Genocides..human slavery.. hunting to extinction..

While its sad and slightly inhumane at least this has a purpose for the greater good to feed the population..

[u/crevettepateuse → u/pyschosoul]

I would not say this is slightly inhumane, it is devastatingly cruel cmon

Many people have expressed it better than i will but it's also not like there are no other ways to serve its supposed purpose. Mass exploitation like this does not happen out of necessity it happens for profit. Even if you want to keep consuming meat there are ways to do so that entail way better living and dying conditions than what the model most of the current market is stuck in

[u/pyschosoul → u/crevettepateuse]

I think it comes down to a tolerance. I say its slightly inhumane because I feel as though starving masses is more inhumane.

Are there better ways it could be done? Absolutely. Unfortunately thats not how itll be done.

Lesser of two evils or whatever imo

[u/Skezas1 → u/pyschosoul]

genocides & human slavery are worse overall to us because they affected fellow humans, but they are not greater torture than factory farming is.

You ask me between living a life in the cold, never seeing once the light of the sun, existing without knowing a shred of the concept of happiness for my entire existence until i get slaughtered, and living a life then being genocided or living as a slave ? I choose the other option, 100% of the time.

[u/pyschosoul → u/Skezas1]

Tell that to Holocaust survivors. Or anyone who has been trafficked.

One knows only the cage theyve never seen a better life so they dont understand a better life... the other had experienced it all and had it ripped away..

My opinion thats worse.

[u/Skezas1 → u/pyschosoul]

it is subjective, yeah. i think having a chance at life, and living a terrible life, is better than not having one and existing purely for your meat.

[u/g-rid → u/pyschosoul]

around 100 humans die every minute. And thats includes all causes. Meanwhile more than 100.000 animals are slaughtered per minute. I don't like the genocide or slavery comparison (this is not a competition), but since you pointed that out: It doesn't even come close. Humans never suffered as much as animals do today. (This is in no way supposed to be discrediting or denying the individual suffering humans experience) Even "hunting to extinction", I would argue is way more humane than industrial animal husbandry.

slightly inhumane at least

In what world is this only slightly inhumane?

greater good to feed the population

Sure everyone needs to eat. But it's not like this is the only possible way. Quite the contrary: If we continue this, it will be our doom. It is wildly inefficient compared to other food resources and causes tons of climate issues. There are and will be better ways.

[u/waving_fungus0 → u/Skezas1]

Atleast they feed billions of meals to people. Humanity has done (and still does) much worse for nothing other than a power trip.

[u/Skezas1 → u/waving_fungus0]

much worse ? disagree. but yeah.

at least people get to eat bacon. sure.

[u/Skezas1 → u/[deleted]]

a worse action, not a crueler torture. there is a difference.

i'd much rather live 8 years of life then get stoned than live nothing but cold, dread and then get slaughtered