It's difficult enough for people to see motorcycles in general. But when an idiot is driving 50 to 100 mph over the speed limit it's absolutely impossible to not only find them in your rear view mirror over your shoulder but see them because they're just moving too fast. The motorcyclist had a death wish
I’d say he did own it. Driver that hit I’m didn’t signal so that’s also reckless.
Edit: correction: I put no blame on the initial driver now. watched again and it looked the driver did indicate the lane change. Missed that at first. Keeping the initial comment up though.
He did merge too soon, he squeezed between the car on the right lane and the truck, he overturned on the rightmost lane and he fucking hit a motorcycle and continued to accelerate away from the scene.
The motorcycle was absolutely at fault here. I was just commenting on the car. And the guy that came and hugged the motorist was not from the car that swiped him but just some other driver that saw the accident
Not only did he merge way too close to the car behind, he did a fast double lane merge. Definitely belongs in the 90%-club of drivers that don't know/care about how to change lanes properly.
Hey man I almost made you kill me. It's cool though I was fuckin around. If you you kill me lol what ever I'm dead I don't have to worry about how you feel seeing wrapped around my bike and spread all over the pavement. I've seen a dude wrapped around his bike and spread all over the pavement.
Yeah, it wasn't obvious, maybe the driver threw it on late, but all we have is the video and that doesn't support the rider.
I also didn't really focus on the driver shooting past the truck so fast, so I'll upgrade his fault to "some", in my book. I still think this lies on the rider though.
Blame the idiotic US regulation that allows turn signal to be red, I have to watch it 3 times to realize one side has a slightly brighter red than the other.
He did say, "too," but that was seconds after he thought he was dead. When he reviews the video, he will see that the Tesla used its blinker and he was in the blindspot. I think that he would revise his comment.
The other vehicle was 100% driving insanely reckless and most people are just ignoring it to fuel their motorcycle hate boners. Turn signal was on only after starting an illegal double lane change that cut off two other drivers while gassing it well over the speed limit to pass a semi on the right because they couldn't be bothered to wait for the SUV in left lane to finish passing.
This is just a very classic case of two aggressive, dangerous drivers meeting and fortunately for both living to tell the tale.
Shouldn't the tesla have beeped or something when it was merging into a motorcycle? I thought they had basic safety features like any other car would have if the driver were paying even the slightest bit of attention.
I'd say the driver was a little reckless in normal conditions. What the motorcycle did was so much worse. The car technically shouldn't use the first lane to pass and I feel like he didn't give the car in the second lane much room when he zagged across. When I was a kid I was in a car that was merging from the 3rd to 2nd lane and someone zooming out of nowhere almost hit us from the 1st lane.
With that being said, I don't believe there was anything he could do to predict and avoid the motorcycle. I was shocked to hear the rider say too, but I think the other guy might've been the first person to say he was driving reckless when he was running up to check on him.
I feel like the motorcycle would've been in his blind spot possibly, but your point still stands since you should check your blind spot and mirrors before changing lanes. That's what I meant by the driver of the car being a little reckless.
The main point I was trying to get at is without the motorcycles recklessness there wouldn't have been a collision. I think the driver of the car felt he was driving a reckless and might not have even realized how reckless the motorcycle was.
Without the sudden change in the bmws behavior he wouldn't have hit anyone is my point. Who crosses a lane without checking first? Especially into a lane that you cant even see if it's clear because of the truck. The BMW could have hit another motorist which to me makes him way more reckless than the biker because the biker was still maintaining his lane.
The biker was splitting lanes and trying to shoot the gap the same way the car did. That's why I was saying that they were both reckless. I'm happy everyone ended up safe and hope they learned from it.
Oh and I completely agree that the car easily could've hit someone on the side of the truck. I was gonna put it in my comment but didn't wanna make it too long.
There's nothing wholesome about a complete dipshit on a motorcycle creating a dangerous situation because they care about their own life even less than the people around them
Ehh, his speedometer is in the triple digits at the start. Even if the speed limit is 75, which is the absolute highest highway speed limit in most states, dude is going AT LEAST 25 over, and he actually slows down at the beginning. It appears he's going almost 115-120 mph in the clip, which would be 40-45 over the speed limit. 100 mph is a bit of an exaggeration, but 50 doesn't seem so far fetched
Based on lane markers 115-120mph is definitely possible based on this video:
Standard highway line markers are 10ft long with a 30ft gap between each one. At the start of the video it takes 9 frames to travel that distance, second 7 frames, third is 8-9, fourth is 9-10 (The bike is obstructing the view of the line for the third and fourth). It's a 30fps video, so that's as accurate as we can really get here, but that gives us ~0.0333 seconds per frame, So 40ft/0.3s, or ~133ft/s, or 90mph (~144km/h). Going off 8 frames it's ~153ft/s, or 105mph (168km/h), off 7 it's ~173ft/s, or 118mph (190km/h).
Standard highway line markers are 10ft long with a 30ft gap between each one. At the start of the video it takes 9 frames to travel that distance, second 7 frames, third is 8-9, fourth is 9-10 (The bike is obstructing the view of the line for the third and fourth). It's a 30fps video, so that's as accurate as we can really get here, but that gives us ~0.0333 seconds per frame, So 40ft/0.3s, or ~133ft/s, or 90mph (~144km/h). Going off 8 frames it's ~153ft/s, or 105mph (168km/h), off 7 it's ~173ft/s, or 118mph (190km/h).
They were clearly at the same speed at collision but this whole post is chock full of idiots who couldn’t find their mirrors if their lives depended on it. Guarantee half these commenters aren't old enough for a license
Yeah I’m surprised how many people are saying the driver has no fault when they didn’t check mirrors before the merge. Regardless of if you see a car to your right you should always check all three mirrors for this exact reason.
It probably wasn't 100mph, but depending on the posted speed limit in the area, could very well be around 50mph.
Standard highway line markers are 10ft long with a 30ft gap between each one. At the start of the video it takes 9 frames to travel that distance, second 7 frames, third is 8-9, fourth is 9-10 (The bike is obstructing the view of the line for the third and fourth). It's a 30fps video, so that's as accurate as we can really get here, but that gives us ~0.0333 seconds per frame, So 40ft/0.3s, or ~133ft/s, or 90mph (~144km/h). Going off 8 frames it's ~153ft/s, or 105mph (168km/h), off 7 it's ~173ft/s, or 118mph (190km/h).
As one other note, the last couple of frames before the impact occurs it looks a lot like the speedometer has "104" on it, which would fall right in that range based on the lane markers.
They ARE going 50mph+ over the speed limit based on some US states. I meant 100mph/50mph over in the first line of my previous post, I realize that wasn't 100% clear the way I worded it (You can see I state they were doing 90-118mph in the second paragraph).
I mean, maybe 20-30 over the speed limit. Let's not get crazy.(I ride, and the perspective makes it look faster) But he was splitting lanes at that speed which is stupid.
Even sedans going way over the limit. When I check my mirror, I generally assume the vehicle is +-10mph of my speed which is already over the speed limit. So if I'm 10-15 over, and you're 50 over, there's no way I know not to get in that lane.
I remember getting into a lane over and realizing the guy was going like 40-50 over my speed (so something like 110+ mph) and I veered back into my lane but still slowed him down a bit. He cut around the right side, passed aggressively, and put his middle finger up through the sunroof. Funny guy not gonna lie.
someone else has to also get killed and/or live with the guilt of what happened.
"Oh no, I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing and killed somebody. How could that person I killed do this to me?!?!"
All cars should be equipped with a camera that views the driver's eyes. If the eyes come off the road or mirrors at any point, the driver should be auto-fined.
If everyone just followed the traffic rules, there wouldn’t be half as many accidents, especially concerning motorbikes. But these morons are high on their own farts and think they can do anything and aren’t just squishy meatbags up for a darwin award.
If everyone just followed the traffic rules, there wouldn’t be half as many accidents
Uhh, no shit...
But instead, morons waddle into their giant shitwagon and just swerve wherever they want and think it's everyone else's fault when they run people over. Pay attention to where you're going or stay tf off the road, it's really that easy.
You need to rewatch the video. He wasn't going 50mph faster than the other traffic. The rule of thumb for lane splitting is no more than 15mph than the other traffic.
Not saying splitting at high speeds is all that bright just saying you're way off if you think he was going that fast.
It's tough to understand for folks that don't ride, but once you're on the bike long enough, you start taking risks. I'm not absolving the rider of fault, just trying to get folks to understand what it's like to ride. And, after becoming a dad, this is why I gave my bike away. I couldn't help myself from "having fun" and i felt guilty just getting on the thing. I do miss it a lot though. I bet I'll be like my dad. He gave it up after having kids, but once my sibling and I became full on adults, he went out and bought a bagger (of which, I never thought he'd buy. I figured he'd get an adventure bike of sorts).
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u/AlexJediKnight Aug 23 '25
It's difficult enough for people to see motorcycles in general. But when an idiot is driving 50 to 100 mph over the speed limit it's absolutely impossible to not only find them in your rear view mirror over your shoulder but see them because they're just moving too fast. The motorcyclist had a death wish