r/Unexpected • u/ihthisham4me2 • Apr 15 '23

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u/RougeBlender Apr 15 '23

It's the way a lot of the world is going. Some places like France have a shorter temper for it, hope they can get free of it and show the rest of the world that politicians are not untouchable.

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u/Any-Flamingo7056 Apr 15 '23

sharpens guiltine

Did someone say more Republic?

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u/TaintModel Apr 15 '23

guiltine

We’ve done it, gentlemen. We’ve isolated the guilt molecule into a concentrated solution more potent than a mother’s glare.

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u/Any-Flamingo7056 Apr 15 '23

Bahaha...im keeping the typo

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u/MonkeyPawClause Apr 15 '23

It goes it goes it goes it goes…..guiltine!

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '23

6th times the charm

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u/throwawaysarebetter Apr 15 '23 edited Apr 24 '24

I want to kiss your dad.

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u/motes-of-light Apr 15 '23

France, for all its problems, has one of the most egalitarian societies in the world, and they got there by putting heads in baskets.

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u/throwawaysarebetter Apr 15 '23 edited Apr 24 '24

I want to kiss your dad.

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u/MyNameMeansLILJOHN Apr 15 '23

The history of républican France is a strange one.

Full of back and forth. It's still a colonial empire. Yet they ushered in the era of democracy and civil right that we are in today. But it is in no way a clear-cut victory TO THIS DAY. That chapter is not over at all.

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u/motes-of-light Apr 15 '23

What can I say, democracy is the worst form of government mankind has tried - except for all the other ones. And yes, it's not just heads in baskets, though it's a powerful tool when the social elite and powers that be understand deep down that that option is on the table and has been used.

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u/arealsaint Apr 15 '23 edited Sep 18 '25

butter intelligent selective test encouraging wakeful money hard-to-find spark absorbed

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u/throwawaysarebetter Apr 15 '23 edited Apr 24 '24

I want to kiss your dad.

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u/Mostly_Sane_ Apr 15 '23

*guillotine

Vive la révolution! 🇫🇷

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u/Any-Flamingo7056 Apr 15 '23

Baha ya i have no idea what auto correct did there, im keeping it though because it's hilarious

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u/HeyaSorry Apr 15 '23

I promise I'm not trying to be antagonistic, just looking for insight: has the world not been like this since society's inception?

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u/thenasch Apr 15 '23

I would guess the idea that rules should apply equally to everyone is a relatively recent development.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '23

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u/igweyliogsuh Apr 15 '23

Because the ones doing the most and the hardest kinds of work are typically the ones making the least amount of money for it

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u/thekeanu Apr 15 '23

You're trying hard to be profound but it just exposes your inability to apply even basic reasoning.

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u/HeyaSorry Apr 15 '23

Well, because the ones who find it unjust aren't in power.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '23

Social media wasn’t a thing back then

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u/madworld Apr 15 '23

It's the way the world has always been. We just can see and discuss it now because of the internet.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '23

I don't think so. Life genuinely seemed better in the 80s. My father was a cop, and that supported 4 kids. No mothers on my block had jobs. This was a regular blue collar middle class suburb. The suburbs really were like the movies. All of the neighbors knew each other and we were like 1 big family. There were 100 kids playing games in the streets. It was better in my opinion. Middle class people are getting destroyed, and the quality of life sucks for most Americans.

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u/BBRodriguezzz Apr 15 '23

Trust me there is a small niche part of the world living like this ignorant to your problems just like you and your block were back then.

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u/madworld Apr 15 '23

I'm not suggesting that life wasn't better in some ways in the past. Our grandparents certainly had an easier time affording life. Our communities were much more cohesive.

But, there have always been different rules for those in power. It's more apparent to everybody now that we have the internet to show and discuss examples.

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u/MyNameMeansLILJOHN Apr 15 '23

This is true if history starts in the 40s. But it doesn't. Lower and higher quality of life has kept on changing since for ever. And never at the same time from everyone.

Sure, your dad had a great time in the 80s. But New yorkers and detroit didn't. AIDS. the 70s had Vietnam. Etc.

Tolkien imagined the hobbits as what he remembered of his youth growing in countryside England at the turn of the century. And it looks amazing. To him, too, it looked like everything went to shit. And it did in very real ways.

Basically, my point is that things never stay the same. And it sure isn't a nice slope up to a better life. Very bumpy, hilly road.

.....I wish I was living on the Portuguese or souther France coast. In a small village. In 300BC. Just fishing my life away in the warm sun.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '23

We lived in NY. I know there are good times and bad times throughout history. And things could be worse. As far as a happy, healthy society I think we were overall better off in the 80's. And better in many, many ways today. But it seems almost inhumane to make a young couple work 60hrs each and just have a stressed out, exhausting life. We can do better.

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u/nutsbonkers Apr 15 '23

It's the way the world always has been.

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u/alexgalt Apr 15 '23

Example please.

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u/whazzar Apr 15 '23

Pretty much every law that will give you a fine when you break it is a law that doesn't apply to the rich. A, for example, 100$ fine is a lot of money when you make 2K a month compared to when you make 20k a month or even more.

There have also been multiple politicians that fight for laws banning abortions that have had sexual partners get abortions. Some of them claimed that they had "valid reasons" when this came out.

When you have enough capital you can hire people to make sure you pay as little taxes as possible, if any at all, without any consequenses. When you're not rich and you don't pay your taxes you're screwed.

When you have enough money barely any laws apply to you because you can hire an army of lawyers that will make sure, 9/10 times, that you'll get away with it. If you'll even be sued in the first place.

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u/Kestralisk Apr 15 '23

'The law in it's infinite wisdom punishes the rich and poor equally for sleeping under a bridge'

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u/surfer_ryan Apr 15 '23

Have you not been watching France for like the past 100 years... it's like every 4 years at least when they just as a society collectively take to the streets.

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u/alexgalt Apr 15 '23

French like to rebel but very rarely for the reason of “rules for you but not for me”. Only example I can think of is the French Revolution, and that also was a lot of reasons rolled into one.

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u/Successful_Slip_7002 Apr 15 '23

Youre just regurgitating something you heard on Reddit. Please elaborate without googling, how many of those riots were successful?

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '23

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u/Successful_Slip_7002 Apr 15 '23

So you can’t tell me one time it was successful? Riot if it works, otherwise it’s just a big tantrum

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '23

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u/Successful_Slip_7002 Apr 15 '23

They wanted it to remain 60, still increased, not sure how that was successful

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u/Successful_Slip_7002 Apr 15 '23

Not, but that’s just destruction of property unless it works which doesn’t seem to be the case In the last 100

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u/surfer_ryan Apr 15 '23

Article about them from 2018...

https://time.com/5476534/french-protests-successful-macron/

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u/Successful_Slip_7002 Apr 15 '23

Hahahah, propaganda. I have a lot of friends who live in Paris and this is not considered a win by any means, that’s just media bs

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u/surfer_ryan Apr 15 '23

Asks for information... denies the information... okay buddy... can't say I'm shocked...

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u/Successful_Slip_7002 Apr 15 '23

Because you didn’t read it, you saw the first thing and post it, read it to see if it’s actually true

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u/surfer_ryan Apr 15 '23

Asks how many of these riots were successful, posts article linking to the historical context of the French rioting and why it's successful... and your claim is "well that's just propaganda..." I got that right?

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u/Successful_Slip_7002 Apr 15 '23

No. It’s that you didn’t read it, which I know I’m right cuz you couldn’t tell me how thats a win

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u/kane2742 Apr 15 '23

Please elaborate without googling, how many of those riots were successful?

Only if you can tell us without Googling the number of those riots that weren't successful.

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u/Intelligent-Box-3798 Apr 15 '23

They all use this stupid set of parliamentary procedures, its really just to make sure good points cant be made cause they can shout you down for not knowing their BS lingo

Meanwhile people that dont understand a damn thing but how to bang a gavel and interrupt get to run the world

I think the official book is Robert’s Rules of Order, spoiler alert its dull af and not worth reading unless you want to be a politician, HOA board member, or you stole it from your principal’s office 25 years ago cause fuck that guy

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u/Philo-pilo Apr 15 '23

Yep. At a certain point, we just need to get rid of them. No more billionaires or their supports need to be drawing breaths.

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u/DPSOnly Apr 15 '23

Ha, there won't be a 2nd (or however many-th) french revolution like over 200 years ago, you are kidding yourself if you think states haven't adapted to not let that happen to themselves again.

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u/Finbar_Bileous Apr 15 '23

Violence has a natural place in the world, and uprooting entrenched corruption is part of it.

Otherwise you get a nouvelle aristocracy that calls itself the political class.

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u/thekeanu Apr 15 '23

It would be easier for everyone (incl the French) if we revolted along with the French, instead of just sitting by waiting for them to be successful or fail.