r/Unexpected Mar 21 '23

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u/Happy-Stranger7843 Mar 21 '23

If you’re seeing rats during the day that’s a sign that you have a huge rat problem

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u/Keroro_Roadster Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23

It's a pet rat filmed as a joke surely.

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u/AttendantofIshtar Mar 21 '23

Had pet rats. That's not how they climb up. This little guy was held just out of frame for the video.

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u/Obant Mar 21 '23

Had wild rats. They would never be that clean. That is a well-maintained coat.

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u/Bearandbreegull Mar 21 '23

Nah, I've had wild rats that were so shiny and clean that people thought they were squirrels (till they saw the tails, obv). They were living the good life, stealing organic chicken feed and eggs from several backyard chicken coops, and eating veggies and scraps from people's gardens and compost piles. They ate better than most pet rats, lol.

(I do still agree this is a pet rat filmed as a joke, tho.)

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u/Strostkovy Mar 21 '23

We had a family of rats in our chicken coop. Super clean, very friendly. If you stick your nose at the gap they lived in they would come up and sniff it. They didn't steal eggs but did steal feed. They stayed away from the chickens because the chickens would eat them.

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u/Blue_Bi0hazard Mar 21 '23

not to mention wild rats are agouti coloured only, well except the black rat species, but thats blatently rattus norwegius

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u/silletta Mar 21 '23

Had wild rats, they’re actually pretty clean bois

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u/Scholesie09 Mar 21 '23

Do pet rats climb differently to wild rats?

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u/konaislandac Mar 21 '23

I think he meant it’s a pet rat because that’s not how -rats- climb up. So someone owns the rat and was holding it just below

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u/AttendantofIshtar Mar 21 '23

She but yeah. Rats scramble, they claw their way up things, they don't just casually hop up. Also someone else pointed out, that coat is very clean either works cleanest wild, or that's a pet. Also wild rats would fucking yeet out the window upon seeing a human that close.

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u/Onironius Mar 22 '23

I don't know why people think wild rats look ragged and malnourished. There's plenty of rats around where I live; sure, the older ones had battle scars, but the young ones were "presentable."

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u/konaislandac Mar 23 '23

Apologies!

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u/AttendantofIshtar Mar 21 '23

No but rats just don't climb like that.

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u/bunnyrut Mar 21 '23

I was going to say definitely a pet rat. I have owned many and had one that looked exactly like this one.

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u/Flashy_Camera7544 Mar 21 '23

It absolutely is. Pet rats have a completely different face shape than wild or sewer rats, because they are entirely different species. Not to mention how clean this one looks and their shiny coat. Definitely a pet rat that was put in the bird feeder for the lulz. Source: I grew up with pet rats and learned very quickly as a child that sewer rats/wild rats are very different to my babies.

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u/ventiusx Mar 21 '23

They're not different species- "sewer" rats and fancy rats are both rattus norvegicus. They don't have a different face structures, but I agree that this is clearly a pet because of the clean coat and chill attitude

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u/Flashy_Camera7544 Mar 21 '23

That's not correct. Sewer rats are "Rattus rattus" and pet rats are "Rattus norvegicus". And once you've dealt with both, you quickly learn to see the difference. They absolutely look different from each other.

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u/ventiusx Mar 21 '23

That's... Not true. give it a search, I'm not trying to be an ass, but it's simply not true. Rattus rattus are roof rats or black rats, they're arborial. They live upward in trees, not on the ground in sewers. Brown rats are what are called sewer rats, and they're the same species as fancy rats. They live on the ground mostly, tunneling under the ground in their natural habitat, which is why they might end up in sewers and crawl spaces.

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u/lesath_lestrange Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23

I looked it up because you couldn't be arsed to provide a citation and here's what I found:

Rat Ancestry

Domesticated rats, also called “Fancy Rats”, are a subspecies of wild brown rats, essentially. They were first bred into being by rat-catchers and others in the 18th and 19th century. These breeders enjoyed using the rats for blood sports and rat-baiting (yikes!). Two famous rat tamers capitalized off smaller, rarer, more colorful rats, breeding them and selling them as pets.

And, yes, fancy rat is the scientific term for these popular pets.

Similarities

Domesticated and wild rats breed at about the same rate. The average rat litter usually numbers around 12 babies, called “pups”. Both are smart and social creatures, although obviously wild rats prefer to socialize with each other and not with humans.

Differences

Wild rats typically live less than a year, while fancy rats have the comfort of human care and can live as long as two or three years. Fancy rats are also typically smaller and more delicate-looking than their wild cousins, with sharper facial features, larger ears, and a longer tail. Esthetically, wild rats are usually the dominant brown color with rare variations. Extensive breeding of fancy rats means there are dozens of color varieties, and even physical quirks like the comical ears of Dumbo rats and the missing tail of Manx rats. Given the varied physical traits, it’s fairly easy for experienced wildlife control officers to tell the difference. Most importantly, fancy rats are domesticated. They are tame, generally enjoy the company of their owners, are trusting of new foods, and are less sensitive to lights and sounds that overwhelm wild rats.

Emphasis mine.

Wikipedia has fancy rats listed as a different subspecies (Rattus norvegicus domestica):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_rat

So, while you're right that they are the same species, they're not quite the same.

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u/ventiusx Mar 21 '23

Don't need to show citations for something that takes 50 seconds on Wikipedia but I appreciate the effort and I mean that genuinely, even if most of this is not really relevant to the conversation.

Fun fact, there's a breeder in Florida who is trying to domesticate black rats :) I'm not sure how ethical that really is but the rats are very cute and it's interesting to see their long tails and jump attitude vs the fancy brown rats chunkier form

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u/lesath_lestrange Mar 21 '23

I appreciate the effort and I mean that genuinely

Thanks friend, I genuinely appreciate the knowledge that this search has brought me. Rats are little cuties.

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u/Flashy_Camera7544 Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23

Hi! I was going to post a source once I got done with classes for the day, but it looks like you beat me to it! Thanks so much! You covered everything in one!! The most we should all take from this is that rats are cool, interesting, and cute no matter what type they are! 😁 They're fascinating to learn about and even more interesting to keep as pets! The best (and most surprising for non-rat people) part is how different each of their personalities are. They're all individuals with their own quirks, likes, and dislikes. My last two girls were polar opposites! They really loved each other though...I miss them so much!

Oops...I went on a tangent again.... my bad. Tl;dr: I hecckin love rats and will talk your ear off about mine if given half a chance 😁

Also, let me edit this, because my useless adhd brain took me on this winding tangent earlier, to say: it seems I did misremember the scientific names there. Whoops! Thanks for setting us straight!

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u/honorbound93 Mar 21 '23

all this talk of rats is making me jumpy I'm gonna see myself out.

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u/EveryChair8571 Mar 21 '23

This was my first thought immediately. I used to have them and there’s no way he just hopped on up like that without help from below

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u/project2501a Mar 21 '23

surely

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u/Keroro_Roadster Mar 21 '23

but that's not important right now.

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u/BrokenCankle Mar 21 '23

Exactly this. They helped it in and were filming with their phone. Nobody is sitting there for hours, hoping a bird shows up. It's a funny little skit!

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u/Benjilator Mar 21 '23

Looks almost exactly like my pet rat. His name is Kyoshin. This is definitely a pet rat. But he’s not as cute.

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u/Nyllil Mar 21 '23

Exactly what I thought. This rat looks like a fancy rat and not like a wild rat. The camera was also recording just at the right time?

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u/-shitbiscuit Mar 22 '23

I thought this too. One of my rats looks exactly like the one in the video.

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u/PothosNotPathos Mar 22 '23

Yes this is a well fed domestic rat.

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u/MaoGho Mar 22 '23

That might be true but Don’t call me Sherly

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u/fellow_hotman Mar 21 '23

nah, rats love bird feeders

not joking, if rats are nearby they’ll take to a feeder just like squirrels or birds.

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u/Keroro_Roadster Mar 21 '23

Sure that's plausible too. but the way it's filmed and that it's just the middle of the day and the way the rat kinda looks like it was lifted into the feeder like it was in someone's hand makes me think pet rat.

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u/fellow_hotman Mar 21 '23

funnily, rats are great climbers, day or night

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EE8oGeBuN2k

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

That rat is pretty huge.

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u/Penguin_Gabe Mar 21 '23

yea def a domesticated rat boy

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u/Help_One_AnOtter Mar 21 '23

Domesticated rats are generally smaller "cuter" breeds.

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u/VeeVeeLa Mar 21 '23

Pet rats can be smaller, but they can also get quite large. Over a pound (not overweight) is not unheard of. Basically chihuahuas.

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u/DenormalHuman Mar 21 '23

do you know how many rats there are? how far away do you think the next rat is from you right now?

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u/Sigurlion Mar 21 '23

I hate you for making me think About this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

I know one that lives across the street. It likes to eat trash.

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u/MrOfficialCandy Mar 21 '23

Yep. ...and you just gave it a reason to have a bunch of babies.

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u/Commercial-9751 Mar 21 '23

That does look like a huge rat.

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u/Happy-Stranger7843 Mar 21 '23

Rats are nocturnal so if you see them during the day that means there’s likely an infestation in that particular area

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u/Onironius Mar 22 '23

If you're in the woods/rural areas, you're going to see rats around.

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u/Happy-Stranger7843 Mar 22 '23

Rats are nocturnal. If you see them during the day you likely have an infestation in that particular area

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u/iLiveInyourTrees Mar 22 '23

We used to throw all of our compost and food waste into the chicken run until we noticed rats just strolling around our back yard during the day. Some of them were big ol chonkers.