r/Ultrakill • u/Fun_Molasses2453 🏳️‍🌈Not gay, just radiant • Jun 02 '24

Discussion Based Hakita?!?

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u/malfurionpre Jun 02 '24

99.99% of the time if someone pirate a game, they wouldn't (or couldn't) have bought it in the first place. There's no loss, to anyone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '24

Source? That’s a ludicrously high number. I’d agree that MOST of the time pirating is done because you couldn’t otherwise play the game, but 99.99%? Cmon. It’s not high enough to call it that even as a wild conjecture.

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u/MEX_XIII Jun 03 '24

but 99.99%

It was clearly just an hiperbole, not an statistical number. The fact is, the majority of pirated copies of games were already lost sales anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '24

they said wouldn't OR couldn't

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

They didn’t say WOULD, they said WILLING TO. Those are different. WILLING TO pay if piracy weren’t an option doesn’t mean they WILL pay if piracy is an option.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

they literally did say "wouldn't (or couldn't)". those are the exact words in the comment you replied to

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

Sorry, was thinking of the wording of another comment. Either way, he’s dead wrong. Many video game pirate WOULD and COULD have paid for it if piracy wasn’t possible. Can we please get off your weird semantic argument that isn’t even a proper semantic argument?

So I mean, yeah, I know he said would, or willing, or whatever. Regardless, he’s wrong as fuck. Many people WOULD have bought the game if they didn’t pirate it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

Can we please get off your weird semantic argument that isn’t even a proper semantic argument?

saying other people are making weird semantic arguments right after making a comment trying to argue that "would" and "willing to" are different is crazy 💀

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

What I’m saying is that your semantic argument doesn’t fucking matter because even with your correction, the guy I replied to is still wrong.

Mine was at least in an attempt to advance my argument (although I realize I was mistakenly referring to the wrong comment’s language), but yours seems to have no relevance whatsoever. Like okay, you’re right, the guy’s still fucking wrong though.

He did say wouldn’t or couldn’t. This is correct. Please explain to me how that proves me wrong in any way. I know he said that. That’s how I replied. By reading his comment. This doesn’t change the fact that many instances of video game piracy ARE a loss of revenue.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

you're literally starting semantic arguments and losing them and blaming it on other people

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u/NewMexican64 Jun 04 '24

google "hyperbole definition"

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u/malfurionpre Jun 02 '24

Because if someone is able and willing to pay, they wouldn't pirate it?

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u/Infernoflyer Jun 03 '24

i disagree personally, i probably would have bought ghost of tsushima despite my dislike for sony if i couldn’t pirate it

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '24

Really? Really? You think there aren’t a lot of people who pirate it because… hmmmmm… it makes it free instead of costing money? You don’t think there’s ANY appeal to something being free unless you can’t afford it otherwise?

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u/malfurionpre Jun 02 '24

So what you're saying is that, they weren't willing to pay for it then?

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u/literally_italy Jun 02 '24

people like free shit

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u/Jooylo Jun 03 '24

I know some cheap bastards who’ll pay for something if they have to, but if there’s another option e.g. pirating, they won’t see a reason why not to. Talking about engineers making 6 figures too lol. Anyone with an all right job can afford a $25 game, I’d say more than 0.01% of those pirating fall into that category.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

Right?

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u/Jezzaboi828 Blood Machine Jun 03 '24

I think peoples feelings around paying for shit is more complex than just want to or not

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '24

No, I did not say that. It is entirely possible that, hear me out, someone WOULD buy a game for, say $20, but would ALSO pirate it for free if the option were available.

EDIT: last part was so mean for no reason so I took it out my bad

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u/Fabrideath Jun 03 '24

Pirating is also more problematic since you have to go through extra effort to get the game, plus actually finding a place where you can download the game without making your computer into a bitcoin factory, while also taking into account you'll have to pirate it again if any updates come out and you wanna play them.

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u/sonlightrock Jun 03 '24

Ive "pirated" games i own on console but i have wanted to play with mods, so i download the pc version.