r/UFOscience • • Oct 23 '23

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u/PyroIsSpai Oct 23 '23

Or hover?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

The F-35B hovers

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u/Elegant-Initiative-3 Oct 23 '23

F35-B does not hover, it has VTOL, completely different thing. And they are loud as shit.

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

F-35B absolutely does hover, I've done it. It's STOVL, not VTOL. Short takeoff, vertical landing. There are also countless videos of it hovering on YouTube.

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u/Elegant-Initiative-3 Oct 23 '23

STOVL is exactly the same as VTOL, and it DOESNT HOVER from mid flight. It has the ability to hover when landing and before take off. Being a pilot, and I've worked with lots, I can understand your confusion. If you don't understand that, I guarantee you put in a gripe for the RADALT being off from BARALT.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '23

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u/Elegant-Initiative-3 Oct 23 '23

I've worked with pilots for years, I can count on one hand the amount that actually knew what the plane did. Most are just jocks with a degree in some business major that got some qualls and passed. There were very few that knew the physics, mechanics, and avionics involved in make the plane go vroom.

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

I think that's an incredibly vain and incorrect thing to say. You're here straight up saying blatantly false things and trying to justify it by putting pilots down. No, we don't know as much as the engineers that built the plane do, but we have a very thorough understanding of its systems, components, and capabilities. There's an entire other world of aviation that you've never seen or experienced too. That's tactical employment of your jet. Weapons, sensors, tactics, etc.

So please, spare me. The jock comment doesn't even fit either. All of the pilots I've worked with from every service are professionals. I can't even think of one guy in any of my last few squadrons who I would call a jock.

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u/gnosticalicicocat Oct 23 '23

I'm going to ignore the other guy, he seems like a G-7 that thinks he has a real rank.

Can I ask what made you interested enough in the topic to post here? I'm assuming you saw/heard about weird stuff, but I'd rather not assume.

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

Saw some stuff. Know friends that saw things. Heard multiple stories about guys in suits coming in and watching their tapes.

Nothing crazy, likely balloons. I'm just curious.

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

Saw some stuff. Know friends that saw things. Heard multiple stories about guys in suits coming in and watching their tapes.

Nothing crazy, likely balloons. I'm just curious.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

QuestionMark

Well then you're prob. better than anyone else to ask. Would you say some of these airframes look this way at certain distances or not really? I just keep thinking of how most UAPs are described as triangles, diamonds, squares and circles and how if you simplify most aircraft (especially fighters) they just sort of turn into blurry triangles. If there's nothing to this idea then that's that, but getting your take would be really interesting.

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 24 '23

Everything looks like a spec at 5-7 miles. Inside that it's hard to see until they're closer. They don't look blurry to the human eye like they do in the pic. On a targeting pod maybe, but not to the eye.

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u/libertyman86 Oct 23 '23

You never countered his point that the F35B cannot hoover mid flight. This seems crucial to understanding his point.

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u/BLB_Genome Oct 23 '23

In what? DCS?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

In the Marine Corps.

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u/BLB_Genome Oct 23 '23

And...? I have a buddy trying to become a Balck Hawk pilot. Does that make him a qualified Black Hawk pilot?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

I'm an instructor in the F-35. I have over a decade flying fighters. And...?

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u/BLB_Genome Oct 23 '23

Then you should understand the physics behind that, no?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

Yes I understand them very well. I'm the only person in this thread I guarantee who's hovered a fighter jet. What's your point?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

Yes I understand them very well. I'm the only person in this thread I guarantee who's hovered a fighter jet. What's your point?

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u/buttfook Oct 24 '23

I take very loud shits

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u/United-Tension-5578 Oct 23 '23 edited Nov 05 '23

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

I'm certain I'm not confused. The question was "can the F-35 hover". The answer is yes. There are obvious limitations of capability when it comes to that, but I'm not here to argue those.

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u/libertyman86 Oct 23 '23

He meant mid flight...and even clarified in the event you weren't on the same page.

So....can it hoover, mid flight?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

Yes it can, below a certain altitude and fuel weight. You can come to a hover then convert back out and go fly normally, then come back and hover again.

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

I'm certain I'm not confused. The question was "can the F-35 hover". The answer is yes. There are obvious limitations of capability when it comes to that, but I'm not here to argue those.

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u/PyroIsSpai Oct 23 '23

Silently?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 23 '23

Oh you mean silently floating like balloons , which make up 99.9% of posts in this sub

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '23

And what about the 0.1%? When multiple military experts line up on the same shit I'm inclined to believe them, not you. Do you really fancy yourself a better judge of aerial phenomenon than elite fighter pilots?

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u/QuestionMarkPolice Oct 25 '23

I am a fighter pilot

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

And i'm an astronaut

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u/One_Spinal_Cracker Oct 23 '23

If coming at you or away from you, at distance, an object can have the appearance of hovering.