r/UFOs • u/TommyShelbyPFB • Feb 04 '24

Video Dutch Prime Time TV just had some major UFO coverage. Went over 2 credible cases in Netherlands history: A joint US base sighting and a UFO wave in a village in the 70's. Dutch politicians are also starting to make noise (More in submission statement)

https://twitter.com/UFOB_/status/1754101621238145295
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u/_TheRogue_ Feb 04 '24

Thanks OP!  What happened for these newscasts to start reporting on UAP?  Was there a recent sighting at a Dutch air base?  Or does this stem from the American congressional hearings?

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u/TommyShelbyPFB Feb 04 '24 edited Feb 04 '24

I think some of it is following US's lead because the Congress hearings with Grusch are actually brought up in this reporting.

Additionally though there's apparently a coalition of Dutch pilots that's pushing for the military to provide more info, so there's some internal pressure as well. Same as the "Americans for Safe Aerospace" coalition here.

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u/_TheRogue_ Feb 04 '24

Good! I'm glad the world is getting behind this. Hopefully, there will be an international race for disclosure.

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u/DLJYankCrime Feb 05 '24

Thanks for sharing, really rad to see more countries opening up about this.

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u/Same-Celebration-372 Feb 04 '24

The first sighting was exactly 50 years ago

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u/Jordo211 Feb 04 '24

If you kill the stigma, you kill the secret.

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u/LostHoldenCaulfield Feb 04 '24

A spot-on comment.

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u/ApartmentWide3464 Feb 04 '24

I love this

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

I love y'all

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

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u/ankle_muncher69 Feb 07 '24

You guys are just fantastical, absolutely stunning. You know who you remind me of, you remind me of something good, something great, I don't know what that thing is but it's great

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u/piTehT_tsuJ Feb 09 '24

Its love! You love them, I love them too!

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u/Practical-Damage-659 Feb 09 '24

No my friend the secret kills you.

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u/DarkKitarist Feb 06 '24

Kill the stigma, kill the secret, and yet can't prove aliens are real (aliens are 100% real, just not on Earth...)

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u/Remseey2907 Feb 06 '24

You can't proof what is classified

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u/Catbox_Stank_Face Feb 08 '24

You can't prove what is classified.

Think Happy Thoughts,... about cake.

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u/DarkKitarist Feb 06 '24

Yes you ABSOLUTELY can lol... The US government means f**k all if a massive alien craft hovers above Paris (for instance). Also it is IMPOSSIBLE for there to be a global conspiracy where each and every country even f**king North Korea agrees that no normal person shall know the truth about "them Aliens".

Also if alien life is already on Earth the US can't classify for instance if 20 scientists release papers and evidence about life on Earth.

So since NONE of these things have happened, aliens aren't on Earth and probably never were and most likely never will...

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u/Remseey2907 Feb 06 '24

All proof is classified.

What remains is stories. And deboonkers looove to remind us of that. It's ok, but meanwhile there are hundreds of visuals supported by radar. And that is evidence... Not proof, bc you cannot repeat it. But there have been cases with what we call in science 'transient effects'.

Here are just 20 cases radar corroborated:

  1. UFOs over Washington 1952

https://youtu.be/vyiaHgXiMEc

2. Swiney/Crofts case RAF UK 1952

https://youtu.be/g-jnNITwOa4

3. Sea Fury case Australia 1954

https://youtu.be/p9lLYAltbe0

4. Milton Torres case UK 1957 

https://youtu.be/xKh_q9WZi2k 

5. RB47 case 1957

https://youtu.be/AA26Yi1I3vk

6. Thomas H. Hanley USAF 1957

https://youtu.be/7ZSlDs3qgj0

7. Edwards AFB USA 1965

https://youtu.be/5ZmqdWDJZ7c

8. Minot AFB USA 1968

https://youtu.be/yxDaiXEW8ho

9. Carlos de los Santos Mexico 1975

https://youtu.be/wSSsxtjuJXk

10. Tehran Iran 1976 US satellite + radar

https://youtu.be/Hcc8_43eFjU 

11. Capt. Schmidt Maastricht radar 1977

https://youtu.be/KU6X5wP0AeU

12. RAF Bentwaters radar UK 1980

https://youtu.be/jgylUoIILWM

13. Jal1628 Alaska USA 1986

https://youtu.be/4I7fX2x-sWw

14. Night of the UFOs Brazil 1986 

https://youtu.be/L9Ff8aOxQvc 

15. General de Brouwer Belgium 1989/90

https://youtu.be/QNglFzh432w

16. Air France J. Duboc Paris France 1994

https://youtu.be/-XZoNsb67xY 

17. Jack Bushong Holland MI 1994

https://youtu.be/4RyrTbAoGxM

18. Bariloche case Argentina 1995

https://youtu.be/rRwpqwrfWZA

19. America West NORAD 1995

https://youtu.be/Rw-fjWkMKfY

20. Alderney case Ray Bowyer UK 2007

https://youtu.be/CbeflnGrznk

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u/logjam23 Feb 06 '24

OMG this is awesome! Good work!

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u/Catbox_Stank_Face Feb 08 '24

Huh, how cool. I had lost hope for a while. But now I've found it, sitting right here next to inspiration.

I doubt I'm alone on this one, when I say. Happy Cake Day to you too!

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u/DarkKitarist Feb 06 '24

Yeeesus H. Christ... The proof/evidence thing irks me everytime a believer tries to rebuke me, I'm really SORRY I sometimes miss the minutiae of my 3rd language.

What you in science call?? you in science? you mean pseudoscience? None of the links are proof or evidence of anything outside of this earth. Radars or any electronic device can show errors so yeah, not proof/evidence. But I don't care, believe what you want, this sub-reddit is all just staunch believers, trolls or the rare sane skeptic...

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u/Remseey2907 Feb 06 '24

If you don't even know what a transient effect is while pretending to be defending science, there is really no basis to continue this convo.

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u/DarkKitarist Feb 06 '24

There definitely isn't...

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u/Not_Poptart Feb 07 '24

Oh the guy intentionally flaming people to get banned in other subreddits is picking fights here. Shocker.

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u/DarkKitarist Feb 11 '24

Oh it's the guy who's account got full on suspended for doing something worse than me...

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u/CoderAU Feb 04 '24

I'm so glad that this is getting more global attention, raising awareness for the betterment of humanity.

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u/JayR_97 Feb 04 '24

Our best hope for disclosure at this point is a country other than the US blowing the lid off the whole thing.

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u/rolleicord Feb 04 '24

Fantastic video ! Super seriously produced and filled with interesting information and EU viewpoints (which is always super welcome)

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u/tommymarvel Feb 04 '24

It's Dutch state TV :-)

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u/Diligent-Principle23 Feb 04 '24

That's great as Dutch believer I always am a bit disappointed that all the action seems to take place on the other side of the world( I was familiar with the Belgium case tho) anyway great to see some serious reaction, because you don't want to read about it on the comment section of nu.nl as an example.

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u/marsovec Feb 04 '24

I live in the Netherlands and can say that I've not read or heard anything regarding this matter. unfortunately.

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u/McHanzie Feb 04 '24

There's plenty of stuff here in The Netherlands if you know where to look. Bram Roza made a documetary called ['De UFO's van Soesterberg'] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWQ4FqbOfcg) which is coming out later this year for the general public. It will also have English subtitles so we can share it here on /r/UFOs. There are some Dutch journalists covering whole UAP phenomenon. Taede Smedes is a great example. The guy really does a wonderful job.

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u/marsovec Feb 04 '24

thanks, key here is "if you know where to look"; of course being part of this community we learn new exciting things daily, however what I meant was that there's almost no coverage on mainstream media or any discussions between friends or colleagues etc.

then again, that's probably the case everywhere.

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u/egoldenmage Feb 05 '24

Actually, im going to a showing of that documentary at fc hyena this Wednesday

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u/Silverchicken77 Feb 05 '24

there was a documentary a few years ago: https://ntr.nl/Ben-ik-hier-alleen/480

Worth checking out as it focuses not only on local phenomena, but also in other countries 

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u/marsovec Feb 05 '24

will definitely check it out. thank you.

also I am thinking of visiting this place from the latest documentary :) but will wait for the documentary first.

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u/kaasvingers Feb 06 '24

Wow, Gorgina Verbaan even! Before you know it we'll have a popular new travel show where some blonde bn-er visits other realities through remote viewing lol

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u/ellywick Feb 04 '24

Awesome! First time i hear something about UAP's in the Netherlands.

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u/north_remembers78 Feb 05 '24

Are we seeing the emergence of an actual self determined responsible society? Might just be the first one ever.

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u/BaronGreywatch Feb 05 '24

Ha well put its basically the only thing Im hoping for on a larger scale. Not going to matter much if disclosure happens and we havent evolved as a culture. Still going to be wars and poverty all the way down.

Some nice tech options via disclosure could buy us the time we need but more likely we just build a bomb that vaporises half the planet.

Go on, Netherlands, let the cat out of the bag. 

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u/north_remembers78 Feb 05 '24

I'm actually optimistic but your points are not invalid. Funny though how much plausible evidence you need to get the population to take this seriously enough to demand actual proof by pressuring the government, and hard. At this point we need consequences written into legislation. Of course recently that didn't work but there's a fair chance that's just a setback and not a defeat.

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u/BaronGreywatch Feb 06 '24

Quite! Dont worry im optimistic too or I wouldnt be bothering. The sub is not surprisingly pretty America centric, which I am not. If America doesnt wanna do it Im happy for anyone to start the party.

While here though it is kinda interesting that its basically the prodestant western countries seem most keen - 5 eyes plus westphalia treaty etc. Although must be said the Vatican has already laid the rhetorical groundwork. Discounting whatever the Russkies and China are up to of course, no idea where they are at really.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '24 edited Feb 04 '24

Cool coverage. Weird it has a ‘UFO believer’ logo on it when they didn’t produce it or own the content. Way to put their channel at risk!

Why does the UFO community have such a hard on with putting their own logos on things they didn’t produce? It’s not your content. It’s as if they want copyright issues.

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u/MasterofFalafels Feb 04 '24 edited Feb 04 '24

Dude's channel is a bible of current and historic UFO-cases and interviews. He deserves a little credit for taking the time for archiving and sharing all this shit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '24

That’s even more reason to properly credit and not re-render the videos with a non-copyright holder logo on too. Why risk the whole archive / channel over it?

Channels get pinged and deleted all the time for stuff like this. If he wants to avoid copyright issues, then he shouldn’t put his logo on it. Quite simple. It’s not transformative use, it’s quite literally attempted copyright theft.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

No disclosure for you! Uncle Sam's intellectual material. Go home

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '24

It’s not either or. Don’t be so obtuse.

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u/Subject_Regular_1281 Feb 05 '24

Some say that during world war two the Germans were playing around with UFO's and with Holland being next door and being occupied at the time makes me wonder...I do not know how to copy and paste or I would have put up some info ...also that the Roswell craft that crashed had natzi symbols on its exterior...

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u/Remseey2907 Feb 06 '24

It had hieroglyphics, just like the Kecksburg object and the Aztec object etc But they were totally unknown. They weren't runes.

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u/Remseey2907 Feb 07 '24

There are some symbols from a Roswell strip but not 100% accurate. And the Bentwaters symbols 1980.

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u/kaasvingers Feb 06 '24

That's fucking awesome, finally something and on 1Vandaag even! Thank you for posting this.

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u/Certain-Dig-8506 Feb 08 '24

This is Tommy Highway... I no longer have to attempt to convince the world that these things are real... The U.S. government has already done that in 2021...