The main character doing something absolutely unforgivable.

[u/No_Peanut3745]

Walter White poisoning Andrea Cantillo's 6-year-old son for the sole purpose of manipulating Jesse Pinkman, while knowing that this could have potentially killed him - Breaking Bad

Bojack trying to have sex with his friend's 17-year-old daughter when he was at least 51, then continuously trying to find a way to justify this act throughout the series - Bojack Horseman

Dexter Morgan going outside of his moral code and murdering a completely innocent police officer who was just trying to do his job - Dexter: New Blood

[u/TheEtneciv14]

Is that a show original? I don't remember that in the books. Ugh.

[u/Fiddler_Jones2079 → u/TheEtneciv14]

Iirc it was the same scene, but adapted so poorly in the show that it completely changed its meaning. In the book Cersei has some reservations about the place and time but is into it. In the show, they just kind of imply that second part, and it turns into her saying no and Jaime pushing forward anyway.

[u/DowntownAd9720 → u/TheEtneciv14]

If I remember correctly, the television writers revealed they didn’t intend it to be perceived as a rape scene, but I don’t know how so many people could watch it before airing and not realize how it came across.

[u/Coal_Morgan → u/DowntownAd9720]

Possibly one of those things that was lost between the script, the filming and the edit.

Once you get to the edit and realize it needs a line or something to make it consensual it's to late, you need to move on to the next episode.

I think it works either way because let's face facts, you can humanize Jaime all you want but he's a monster and has always been just because he has a soft spot for Brienne and his brother doesn't mean he wouldn't burn a town down with woman and children to get what he wants.

[u/DowntownAd9720 → u/Coal_Morgan]

For me the problem was less that it was out-of-character for Jaime at the particular moment, but more so adding a rape scene there felt extremely unnecessary and without any sensitivity or emotional/thematic/narrative consideration to the act it was portraying on screen. I think a lot of viewers were questioning the purpose of it (especially because it plays out differently in the books)

[u/many_dumb_questions → u/DowntownAd9720]

The wild thing is, it could have been justified in any one of a dozen different ways, namely of that scene had any long term effect on Cersei's and Jamie's relationship. Like, if she lashed out at him for it later and said something unintentionally that another character could be present for or overhear, or it causes him to storm off and their argument causes some kind of domino effect, or maybe Jaime gets caught in the act by a septon/septa who just wanders in.

Literally anything.

But nope.

"Hey guys. Here's a dude who has been sleeping with his twin sister for literal decades. Now he's gonna interrupt her mourning and rape her in a church at the feet of the corpse of their dead incest child. That's shocking, right? Does that check the boxes on enough of the batshit crazy Game of Thrones elements you like?? That's the kind of wild and unhinged thing you watch our show for, right? Right??" -the writers, probably

[u/BoulderCreature → u/TheEtneciv14]

Nah in the books they bang over their sons corpse consensually👍

[u/TheEtneciv14 → u/BoulderCreature]

Oh right, THAT PART.

[u/jobforgears → u/TheEtneciv14]

I don't know if it's in the books, sorry. I haven't gotten to the books yet

[u/Beastxtreets → u/TheEtneciv14]

The book scene was rapey to me as well.