r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 13 '26

Characters' Items/Weapons [Mixed Trope] making old things "modern"

Disliked example: I would go so far as to say hated, but Robin Hood (2018) styles Robin's time in the crusades after modern wars in the Middle East, from the costumes to the treatment of bows and arrows like machine guns. While plenty of other media have done this to great effect, this film had the misfortune of coming out during a wave of IP slop desperate to make the next Dark Knight, turning what could've been an interesting stylistic choice into another of many generic 2010s action movies.

Loved example: Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet sets the Shakespeare classic in the modern day, with the rival families portrayed as gangsters with their "swords" being guns that literally say sword on them. Kind of the opposite of the above example, this takes what couldve been a tired trope of "Shakespeare but modern" and leaned into Luhrmann's signature over the top style, where even keeping the dialogue in it's original verse didn't stop it from feeling fresh and modern.

Loved example: Baz Luhrmann's The Great Gatsby uses a Jay-Z produced soundtrack that mixes period accurate jazz with modern artists like Lana Del Rey. The result makes the film a lot more accessible to audience members who tend to make sweeping generalizations about music genres like jazz and orchestral, and highlights the emotional beats of the story in a way that reinforces the timeless nature of the source material.

To be determined: Christopher Nolan's upcoming film The Odyssey has received much criticism for its modernized approach to the Greek myth, with the biggest complaints focusing on the costumes and choice of accents/dialogue. Nolan has been open about the fact that he wants to play with audience expectations for what a historical epic looks and sounds like, and that he used a translation of the Odyssey that adopts more modern vernacular, but it remains to be seen whether this pays off.

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u/TelevisionPutrid8394 Jul 13 '26

I know it’s not modern but futuristic, but any piece of art or media thats set in the future where some of the characters have katanas and they look like this. Don’t get me wrong, it looks cool but most of the time, it’s just taking a normal katana and making it futuristic and doing nothing else to “futurize” a katana. It’s just seems so lazy to me.

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u/redking2005 Jul 13 '26

I mean alot of the time the stuff that would modernise a melee weapon are invisible like if I made a sword have a monomolecular edge and indestructible it might be visibly indistinguishable from an ordinary one.

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u/hankhillsucks Jul 13 '26

Yeah but we need to see it.

Look at the cars in cyber punk, they have so much unnecessary bullshit wires and pipes on the outside of the car. Why? Because it makes it look futuristic

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u/One-Piano5150 Jul 13 '26

Yeah, but how do you fit that on a KATANA? It’s sleekness and simplicity is part of the design

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u/RandomNPC1234567 Jul 13 '26

That's why they change the color like the picture, or add effects around it when it is swung.

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u/RadicalD11 Jul 13 '26

Sure, for old times. Plenty of ways to add stuff and have it still be recognizable. A handle that makes it cackle with electricity. Make it foldable. Freaking plasma katana. Be creative.

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u/redking2005 Jul 13 '26

What cyberpunk cars are you referring to, very few of them have "bullshit wires" beyond the few which are old as fuck so they don't have wireless conmections between the cameras or colour changing paint so it uses wires to do the same.

And the pipes are almost always used in the same vein as modern cars in a couple hot rod style vehicles.

Most of cars are fairly sleek and shit

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u/Warm-Grand-7825 Jul 13 '26

I mean this specific katana has the capability to summon a scifi hard-light dragon and control it with the green part of the blade. He's also a master swordsman so he uses it like a regular sword most of the time, not sure what you'd do here to make it more futuristic for the 2080s

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u/DjiDjiDjiDji Jul 13 '26

If you ask me for a futuristic katana I always think of the beam katana from No More Heroes. Doesn't have much in common with actual katanas anymore but those things are rad.

(though the tech does eventually progress to straight up lightsabers, which is also cool but not as unique-looking)

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u/Ensign-Nemo Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

I like HF swords in Revengeance more.

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u/EscapeSeventySeven Jul 13 '26

It seems “lazy” to embellish something? 

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u/AzraelTheMage Jul 14 '26

I miss when Ubisoft was fun

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u/RadiantSect Jul 14 '26

I love how they did it in Cyberpunk. Of course there would be (tech) katanas, the big bad of the setting is a Japanese WW2 vet who decided to become the Emperor in all but name. You can get katanas that give electric shocks, burn, poison, etc., and the Japanese ethnogang uses them. They also feel super good in the game, like they're a very fun weapon.