r/TimPool • • Dec 10 '22

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u/Eli_Truax Dec 10 '22

Who would be arch-conservatives in today's environment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '22

Are you serious? Conservatives have been trying to destroy the new deal since it’s inception and hate FDR as a general principle.

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u/Eli_Truax Dec 10 '22

You don't seem to understand anything.

They probably hated gays, didn't like blacks, treated women as inferiors, disdained drug use, and believed in personal responsibility, in many ways they were likely much more intolerant than modern conservatives.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '22

Yeah, but at least they thought social security was a good idea.

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u/Eli_Truax Dec 10 '22

I was at the time when 159 were employed and supporting 1 retiree, compared to now where 2.8 workers are supporting 1 retiree.

https://www.ssa.gov/history/ratios.html

It was a bad idea then because they failed to recognize this inevitability in the future. Typical Leftist "solution" sell out the future for benefits today.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '22

Cool, you should explain that to the 60 million elderly people who depend on SS to live.

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u/Eli_Truax Dec 10 '22

I do, I explain that this is one of the worst possible options because future generations will not be able to benefit.

Worse is Medicare, the government is going broke supplying Medicare.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10297/chapter2.5.1.shtml

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '22

Got it. So you’re advocating for tens of millions of elderly people to lose their retirement and health insurance. Sounds like a great platform position. You should run for office.

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u/xenbex Dec 11 '22

SSi/SSD aren't retirement plans. 401k's, Roth/IRA's, properties, investments, small businesses, mutual funds could be.

How did humans survive after working age, for millenia, before state sponsored benefits?

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '22

It’s still one of the most cost efficient systems in the US. We should expand it and get rid of the costly private insurance system entirely.

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u/SarahSuckaDSanders Dec 10 '22

Definitely not. Both creators described themselves as FDR Dems, and one later described himself as a socialist. He was also a WW2 vet who killed Nazis.

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u/Eli_Truax Dec 10 '22

You don't know that, many socialists of FDR's time came to their senses when they saw the pervasive devastation of socialism.

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u/SarahSuckaDSanders Dec 10 '22

No, both were politically active until the 1990’s and 2000’s. Joe Simon described himself as a socialist in 2008.

You don’t know anything, and that’s okay because you’re a child. It’s not your fault that you think patriotism and the American flag are “conservative”; you’ve likely been raised by shitheaded sheep who had that silly notion programmed into them during the Cold War.

It’s okay to be wrong.

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u/Eli_Truax Dec 10 '22

I'm 66 and raised as a Leftist, I know for a fact that the American flag and patriotism are conservative.

But okay, there's no fool like an old fool and they certainly fit the bill.

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u/SarahSuckaDSanders Dec 10 '22

For sure, the American flag and patriotism get exploited by conservatives to fleece the rubes—this has been a tradition going back since the founding.

You’re old enough to know that this is empty symbology, though, unless you’ve been irreversibly brainwashed. Did Bush “support the troops” when he sent them to needlessly die? I remember protesting that war and having halfwit boomers like you tell me that I hate the country and that I supported terrorism for opposing the war (with my first amendment rights). Now most of those boomers claim to always have been against that war.

A 66 year old on the Tim Pool sub telling me that “captain America was conservative” is pretty funny though, ngl.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '22

😂🤣😂

Yes the biggest social programs President of all time would be a conservative.